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Post by Nicholas on Jul 10, 2006 17:23:03 GMT
I think jumping around in a sack has got Sally into trouble before.
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Post by Lucinda on Jul 12, 2006 13:25:33 GMT
How do all these people who go off and live in America (I first thought of everyone going off to Michelle Fowler's, but I'm sure there are many more) acquire visas? Do they marry Americans for green cards? Or do they just overstay their visas illegally and work cash in hand? It bothers me. The rest of us have to go through that green card lottery process. In Soapworld, things seem to be a lot more convenient. Hmm...
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Post by Mr Kenneth on Jul 12, 2006 14:01:08 GMT
And it's a tiddly little bus too, bless it. Whilst we're talking Corrie, it would be wrong to have this thread and not mention that the Rovers' loos are in Ken and Deirdre's house. Never mind the toilets, that's actually potentially explainable, (see note below) It's the endless rooms that trail into the middle of Rosamund Street that get me. Get set for a Mr K rant; This has bothered me for years! As you look at the front of the Rovers, Rosamund St goes down the left hand side and has the chippy on the other side. The pub has one bay window to the front, split in the middle by a brick pillar where the seating booths are and still imagining we are standing outside the front of the Rovers and looking in with x-ray eyes, to the left of the booths there is the dart board and to the left of that there is the fireplace on the boundary wall onto Rosamund Street itself. All in order and perfectly fine so far, BUT: If we follow that boundary wall (noting that is perfectly straight on the outside leading to a bridge arch beyond the pub and the chippy), moving on the inside from the dartboard past the fireplace you will come to a facing wall which has the payphone on it, this is the wall separating the left handside of the pub (as viewed from the front of the pub) from the wide hall area where the stairs go from left to right across the back wall. SO: How come there is a living room to the left of this hall and kitchen also to the left beyond that!!! How come, how is this possible. Why are there not cars and trucks driving through it. Weatherfield obviously has a strange capacity to exist beyond the laws of physics and permits two objects to occupy the same space at the same time. It's like some kind of TARDIS. I have always wanted another fire at the Rovers so that this can be rectified by the set designers. Toilets explanation (potential) There is actually a small gap between the Rovers and No. 1. It's only about four feet wide but there is a gate at the end of it between the two buildings at the front. I always rationalise this as being wide enough for a small vestibule leading to stairs down to the basement in the case of the men's loos and a corridor to the back of the building for Ladies. I know... I'm a freak.
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Post by Bungle on Jul 12, 2006 14:31:02 GMT
I presume you've read 'The Changing Rovers Return'? www.corrie.net/profiles/places/rovers/rovers2.htmIt's better now than it was! You also miss out the most disturbing fact - that the houses on the street are to a less than 1.0 scale, from a tiny studio bound set in the 60s to a similarly tiny external one during the 70s. Look at this aerial shot from the 70s and note the undersized doors, low ceiling/roof and - most especially - the fact that they're only about 8ft wide! The set is now bigger, but still not fully to scale. I think that Albert Square's the same, although that set was supposed to only last about 5 years.
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Post by QuincyMD on Jul 12, 2006 14:41:18 GMT
"I've just shagged your brother, your wife, your sister, your mother, your father, your Granny, your kids and the dog but we'll be back to being best friends in six months and will never mention it again."
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Post by Adrian on Jul 12, 2006 15:11:56 GMT
Toilets explanation (potential) There is actually a small gap between the Rovers and No. 1. It's only about four feet wide but there is a gate at the end of it between the two buildings at the front. It's called The Ginnel. A
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Post by Nick on Jul 12, 2006 15:20:17 GMT
After careful inspection of various photographs of the Rovers Return from the past 45 years, and further examination of the plans of the pre- and post-fire interior of the bar (and living quarters), I am now really upset.
Also, are the ugly 'nice' houses really only 17 years old? Why would anyone build those houses in that location, and especially at that angle? What were they thinking? Gail's front doorstep is practically the garage forecourt.
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Post by lowculture.co.uk on Jul 12, 2006 15:45:52 GMT
I too have always had a vague notion that the door to the toilets let to a staircase (in the ginnell) and that the toilets were downstairs along with the cellar.
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Post by jem on Jul 13, 2006 12:28:52 GMT
Bungle- interesting as that article was it still doesn't explain what happened to the considerably large staging area.
A neighbours point- how many rooms does Lynn's house have it appears to vary from 3 to 13 depending on who lives there.
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Post by Mr Kenneth on Jul 13, 2006 14:21:40 GMT
The set is now bigger, but still not fully to scale. I think that Albert Square's the same, although that set was supposed to only last about 5 years. That's interesting stuff. I haven't read it, so thanks. However, if anything it's just increased my frustration. Did 1960s TV producers think viewers were all stupid and that they had no obligation to make the outside of a building resemble in any way the layout exhibited within or visa versa? The earlier pub with the Select was even further into Rosamund Street and yet the pub has always been shown on the corner of the two streets! The Eastenders exterior set may also be made of sub-scale balsa wood, but at least it corresponds inside and out. (Although now I'm starting to wonder whether Grant's bedroom window looks into the flats next door)... But it's still miles better - unlike the quality of the writing, acting, storylining etc. Come on Corrie producers, have a fire and sort it out. Have all the rooms at the Rovers going back behind the bar! At least that way it would be believable.
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Post by booers on Aug 8, 2006 12:42:48 GMT
In Corrie they never set a proper time to meet someone. Last night the estate agent said to Jason & Sarah that he'd see them at "tea time" - when is that? Does everyone have their tea at the same time? And if so how can they possibly meet up with him as they should be having theirs too!
The same goes for dinner time too - they always say they'll meet people in the Rovers at dinner time yet don't actually agree what this time actually is!
Very frustrating.
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Post by JonSpice on Aug 8, 2006 22:08:12 GMT
Oh, that can bug me too. Especially when a conversation about meeting in the pub for me includes about three contingency plans and ends with me confused as to who needs to text who if whoever isn't there on time.
Corrie people have it easy. "See you in the pub later!" "Yeh okay!" - and then they arrive at practically the same time.
OR - they get angry when someone's later - "I've been waiting here on my own for half an hour!" when proper plans were never made in the first place.
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Post by [james] on Aug 8, 2006 22:56:12 GMT
OR - they get angry when someone's later - "I've been waiting here on my own for half an hour!" when proper plans were never made in the first place. This always makes me laugh as they all pretty much live within twenty strides of the Rovers again and, of course, no-one's ever heard of phoning someone to see where they are. Blanche is the only one who has an excuse. I doubt she has a mobile. She'd waste all her credit on Jamster! ringtones.
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Post by Steven on Aug 9, 2006 14:10:56 GMT
I think my problem is generally that they don't need to show people making the arrangements at all, half the time. It's not exactly gripping telly, and I'm fairly certain most of us can discern for ourselves whether a meeting was pre-arranged or not. Just end the scene before you get to that part unless it's VITALLY important that we see it.
I can accept that listening to people going "ooh, I can't do 6:30, shall we say seven?" "Okay, where do you want to meet?" "I dunno, where do you want to meet?" is boring telly and that's why their arrangements are always so vague, but the first rule of soap writing (as a soap writer once told me) is to come into a scene as late as possible and leave as early as possible, so you just tell the important bit and leave the viewer to fill in the rest themselves. I'm fairly certain you can just cut out before Jason tells Sarah Lou he'll see her in the Rovers at teatime.
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Post by toby3000 on Aug 12, 2006 12:52:54 GMT
Neighbours is the worst for that. There was a good month or two when the only time we'd see Karl was when he was in Scarlett Bar buying wine. They'd obviously demolished his flat set. This leads into all the "Hmmmms" one could have about the sets on Neighbours, particularly the one classroom school with the ever changing posters and the multi purpose hospital ward, but it's just too easy. Neighbours is terrible for recycling sets. Karls flat is obviously the same flat that Libby and Drew lived in, except when they lived there it was a in a scummy building and Karl's is all swanky. Libby also lived in Darcy's house without comment, the outside of which inexplicably became the shot for the police station (which I don't ubderstand, since they could easily do a random outside shot like they have for the hospital and the school.
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Post by Nurse Dunkley on Aug 15, 2006 10:22:09 GMT
Has anybody mentioned child actors yet?
They always make me go "Hmmmm", especially when they say their lines with no passion and without actually looking at the person they are meant to be speaking too.
Yes, Bethanie Platt, I do mean you. Also, you look like the Queen Mum. Stop it. It's scaring me.
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Post by toby3000 on Aug 15, 2006 13:24:35 GMT
Bungle- interesting as that article was it still doesn't explain what happened to the considerably large staging area. A neighbours point- how many rooms does Lynn's house have it appears to vary from 3 to 13 depending on who lives there. I'm pretty sure it's always had 3 bedrooms, since when the Scully's moved in Flick and Michelle were sharing I believe, which would make it; Bedroom 1; Lynne and Joe Bedroom 2; Steph Bedroom 3; Michelle and Flick Then they had the 'sewing room' for waifs and strays like Connor/Valda God only knows how it works at the minute though; Bedroom 1; Lynne and Oscar Bedroom 2; Janelle and Kim Bedroom 3; Janae and Bree Sewing Room; Stingray and Dylan Could just about work, but it's a bit silly.
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Post by [james] on Aug 15, 2006 20:45:05 GMT
Sewing Room; Stingray and Dylan That's slashfic waiting to happen. Maybe with a Cluedo theme. It was Stingray. With the gimp-mask. In the sewing room.
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Post by Bungle on Sept 5, 2006 9:30:37 GMT
Oh don't, you sound like my Dad - way back in the day when I lived with the parents he complained constantly about what time it is supposed to be in EastEnders. It just washes over me. Some dramas have times and dates written next to each scene, which is a rather sensible solution to the problem.
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Post by ruthie on Sept 5, 2006 10:10:07 GMT
Sometimes there are clocks in the background, but this just makes things worse - everyone sitting round for a family evening meal at about 4.30pm, or rushing out to the (completely packed) nightclub at about 6.
The thing that gets me is that everyone is always up and haing breakfast in the caff at some horribly early hour, even those without jobs who would so clearly not bother to get out of bed if they didnt have to.
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Post by Michael on Sept 5, 2006 13:07:03 GMT
It's not a soap, but Will and Grace is shocking for having two stories in the same episode which run at completely different speeds. I'm sure I remember a Karen and Grace storyline taking a few hours, while a Will and Jack one is over a few days. Tsk!
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Post by jetsetwilly on Sept 5, 2006 18:22:16 GMT
Corrie was driving me up the pigging wall on Sunday's episode. In the timeline of the show, it was Saturday lunchtime, and there was Liz, Violet, Betty and Sean all behind the bar. And then Kym Marsh turned up, got her job back, and immediately nipped through to help out. How many members of staff does a back street boozer need? The Queen Vic's about three times as big, and all they need is Peggy, Dawn, Phil and Silent Tracy to keep everyone happy. And if they're all on at lunch time, who's going to be pulling the pints at eleven o'clock after a twelve hour shift?
Also, just mentioning Violet, does anyone know where all her neckerchiefs have gone? Suddenly she's all shoulders...
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Post by Nicholas on Sept 5, 2006 19:15:44 GMT
Ah but Saturday was the first Saturday of the month so perhaps everybody's pay was burning a hole in their pockets - perhaps everyone in Weatherfield goes on the lash on a Saturday as early as possible, Saturday lunchtime could be busy!
Anyway, Liz rarely does anything behind the bar, at least not in the pint-pulling department, so she doesn't really count, and Betty would no-doubt be knocking up the next batch of hot pot (should that be one word?).
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Post by toby3000 on Sept 5, 2006 22:06:40 GMT
How many members of staff does a back street boozer need? ... My sister used to manage a pub, and it always drove her crazy the stupidly high staffing levels of soap pubs....most local pubs only have one or two people on on weeknights
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Post by jetsetwilly on Nov 16, 2006 12:18:25 GMT
Reviving this because Corrie is making me go "hmmm" something rotten at the moment. Why has no-one, anywhere, at all, suggested that Bev moves in with Shelley? They keep saying that Ashley is the closest thing to family she's got - no he isn't. I know they had a row, but it wasn't that bad, was it? And anyway, only the Barlows and the Peacocks know about it - Liz and Steve have no idea.
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