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Post by Dave on May 21, 2013 22:29:32 GMT
Glen Whitehouse Is my new favourite character.
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Post by pops on May 26, 2013 16:04:49 GMT
Seconded - the way he handled Brian was brilliant.
As a relative Archers newcomer, is there a long-standing reason why Jill always seems to be a bit of a cow to Kenton? I remember she was quite snotty and disapproving when he got together with Jolene as well. She's quite simpering with the rest of her spawn, but he seems to bring out her inner (shout out to my avatar) Lucille Bluth. ("I hope you're not accusing me of playing favourites, I love all my children equally." Cuts to: "I don't really care for Kenton.") He's probably my favourite of yer actual Archer family, which is why I feel it's unfair. If she cut off Pip, I wouldn't care.
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Post by Dave on May 29, 2013 18:05:08 GMT
Well Kenton has always been the black sheep of the Archer clan and he has really put Jill through it in the past. At the height of the AIDS crisis he returned from sea with a mysterious illness and I think he really ended up putting him Mum through the emotional wringer. It was a low point for him (and you could argue for the show too) I'm not really surprised she's adopted a slightly detached attitude, although he's really no where as bad as he was. Although his treatment of Cathy was a flash of the old Kenton.
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Post by quincyme on May 30, 2013 18:04:30 GMT
IIRC Kenton was due to actually have AIDS but the BBC vetoed the storyline and thus he instead had to have a thyroid problem.
And loved Tony moaning at both Brian and Jennifer.
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Post by pops on Jun 1, 2013 17:27:30 GMT
Thanks for the Kenton explanation. That Aids storyline sounds so Making of Acorn Antiques, I'm just surprised they went with a thyroid problem rather than ear wax.
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Post by Dave on Jun 1, 2013 20:21:00 GMT
Given the build up to the big reveal at the time I think earwax would have been slightly more dramatic. All this was pre-web of course and apart from the odd column in the Telegraph there was no real Archers news. Today it would be perfectly obvious they bottled it. At the time it seemed to be leading somewhere important and then all of a sudden it was a thyroid problem and never mentioned again.
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Post by Steven on Jun 3, 2013 9:05:35 GMT
Though to be fair, "seemingly leading somewhere important only to be quickly resolved and never spoken of again" does seem to be a bit of a template for Archers plotlines. I'm still smarting over how Pat and Tony managed to recover from near bankruptcy and almost killing a child with e.coli by...changing the name of their business. And how Ian never found out about Adam sleeping with Pawel.
Also, Pip appears to have undergone another of her miraculous personality transformations. She's been a complete horror for months to pretty much everyone she knows, while they all worry that they're being unfair to her, and now she beat Josh in the single-wicket contest and David's paying for her car insurance and suddenly all is right with the world so she's gone back to being the dutiful daughter, working on the farm and doing all her homework? It's like Bridge Farm's e.coli ice cream - I ain't buyin' it.
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Post by quincyme on Jun 6, 2013 18:09:57 GMT
Blimey!
that either setting something up or a massive copout.
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Post by Steven on Jun 7, 2013 9:39:18 GMT
I really liked it as a twist - I've been a bit critical of The Archers for a while now for being so predictable, but I definitely didn't see THAT coming.
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Post by Dave on Jun 7, 2013 11:28:22 GMT
Bloody hell. Matt's hands are now DRENCHED in blood.
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Post by Alderman Alfred Logan on Jun 10, 2013 19:45:58 GMT
I absolutely loved Paul's removal. Though it did feel a bit like, unexpectedly, the actor got other work. So interesting to see how her and Matt will handle it
The best thing about it is bringing Lilian and Jolene together- I'd been hoping she would seek affair advice from her. Or, even more brilliantly, Brian.
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Post by pops on Jun 10, 2013 20:21:33 GMT
I thought it was a smart twist as well - now Lilian will have to grieve and deal with her guilt in silence, and Matt can't let on that he knows what's going on without potentially giving away that he might have contributed to his death. So that can either blow up soonish, or fester away for ages. Or they can never speak of it again - it's really wide open.
My second favourite recent storyline is the saga of Peggy's home help, just for Jennifer trying to act the martyr in front of Tony. "I'm busy too, you know." Doing what?" "Ummmmm.. never you mind."
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Post by Steven on Jun 10, 2013 23:12:03 GMT
Yes! Jennifer's one of my favourite characters in the whole show, and she's never more fun than when she's affronted by other people not caring about trivial things as much as she does. Tony was quite right to put her in her place as well, she was very cold to him during the e.coli incident. Although I must admit I'm disappointed that Peggy went with Emma as her home help in the end - the idea of Tracey getting in with Peggy seemed ripe with comic potential, especially considering how disgusted Jennifer would've been every time they interacted. She still hasn't quite learnt to tolerate Susan, I doubt she'd ever be able to learn to love Tracey.
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Post by Dave on Jun 22, 2013 22:32:12 GMT
PAEDOTITCHNER!!!!
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Post by Alderman Alfred Logan on Jun 24, 2013 20:20:27 GMT
Why exactly is Tony upset that Tom spoke to Brian about ready meals?
He has had the exact same conversation with every fucker in Borcestshire. Twice.
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Post by Dave on Jun 25, 2013 0:33:02 GMT
It just seemed a bit random that one. Tom's been through the business wringer with Brian once you'd have thought he'd really want to stay away. Or does he still deep down want praise and respect from him.
Meanwhile I'm not sure the flower festival is really working as a comedy sub plot. But it did mean I thought they were going to have a week of pudding and cake based cliffhangers with "another slice of lemon drizzle" and "I can make you a sponge pudding" almost following on from one another.
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Post by Dave on Jun 27, 2013 15:58:25 GMT
Ambridge Extra back next week from Tuesday and we're off on holiday with Matt and Lillian. An hoping for some unlikely eastern-European gangster based shenanigans.
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Post by quincyme on Jun 29, 2013 7:02:09 GMT
The Jazza has just drunk some paint reaction/laughter is one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard.
Who thought that was an acceptable take?
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Post by quincyme on Jun 29, 2013 18:26:42 GMT
Some classic Archers in this 10 year old or so look at Radio Soaps, Archers starts 2h 18m in. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b007jpk5/Radio_Soaps/Ep1 - Walter, Dan and Tom spend 5 minutes having a conversation that is IMPOSSIBLE to understand a word two of the characters are saying and then............ Ep2 - Tom spends some time discussing sparrows or some such before bringing it round to introducing the storyline of Brians cock hanging out of his pyjamas!!! I'd also suggest you check out the 2nd episode of Mrs Dale on there for the worst accent in the history of acting (that isnt Walter Gabriel in the first Archers episode in this, meeee old beauty) and thanks to Citizens for reminding me how much I didnt like the show first time round.
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Post by Dave on Jul 10, 2013 23:34:35 GMT
Well I have no idea where Ambridge Extra is going. Meanwhile she's the best of bad bunch but go #teamBrenda
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Post by pops on Jul 21, 2013 9:39:16 GMT
"Hello Rob, fancy bumping into you at the playground. And you've brought your camera!" I think you might be on to something...
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Post by quincyme on Jul 21, 2013 14:02:26 GMT
It would certainly liven up those tedious staffing scenes he has with Brian - so long as he goes nowhere near Keira as I dont think I could stand months of Emma being hysterical but then again making Emma and Helen friends will give Paedotitchner two opportunities.
Listen to Pat people, listen to Pat!
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Post by quincyme on Jul 21, 2013 21:43:20 GMT
I think they are threading the end of the Tom/Brenda relationship at the moment, with her getting broody and him only interested in his sausage. At the moment I'm interested in what secret that the new megadairy man has - does he really have a wife or will he be tupping Kirsty/Helen/Adam? Pat on the back for me there re Tom/Brenda and had Rob really already been there for 6 months without actually doing anything apart from seeding future stories?
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Post by Dave on Jul 21, 2013 22:34:36 GMT
"Hello Rob, fancy bumping into you at the playground. And you've brought your camera!" I think you might be on to something... Yes my dramapaedoTitchner alarm exploded at that point
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Post by Dave on Jul 23, 2013 9:32:22 GMT
I simply did not understand the "business" at the fete with the "clan chief". The errupting tannoys and air horns seem to imply it was Dougie of clan McFly to me and I was expecting a slebrity guest reveal, but it never came and it really did seem to be a bloke from a local chip shop. Did I miss something? (Also Lillian freezing Matt's accounts was aces)
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