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Post by Steven on Jun 17, 2004 14:09:12 GMT
Sometimes you hear about a soap story in advance and you think "that's bollocks. That's the worst idea in the whole world and it will never ever work." The thing is, usually once you actually see it play out, it doesn't look so bad.
But there was a huge spread devoted to the EastEnders dragon slide disaster in this week's Inside Soap disaster, and I still can't take this storyline seriously at all. It should be in Grange Hill, not EastEnders.
And I suspect that of the people who may die in the "tragic accident", not one of them will be a Ferreira. What a wasted opportunity.
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Post by si on Jun 17, 2004 14:13:39 GMT
The 'tragic accent' affects the Slaters, if the front of TV Guide/Soap Week/Woman's Realm is to be believed.
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Post by billybathgate on Jun 17, 2004 14:50:19 GMT
The 'tragic accent' affects the Slaters, if the front of TV Guide/Soap Week/Woman's Realm is to be believed. Would that be the tragic cock-er-knee accent that have? |
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Post by si on Jun 17, 2004 14:53:42 GMT
Would that be the tragic cock-er-knee accent that have? Ha, I am a fool. I of course meant Vikki Fowler. |
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Post by si on Jun 17, 2004 16:17:55 GMT
I don't think any key cast members are killed apart from Lynn's unborn baby - which leads to Lynne departing (following Lairy Lourdon's sacking...) ...and here was me trying to keep it spoiler free. Better watch out for Jamie. |
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Post by Steven on Jun 17, 2004 16:59:00 GMT
No, somebody dies besides Lynne's baby.
Don't know who, though.
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Post by moondial on Jun 18, 2004 0:54:04 GMT
Ian is going to be left in a wheelchair a la Chris from Emmerdale.
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Post by si on Jun 18, 2004 11:15:15 GMT
Ian is going to be left in a wheelchair a la Chris from Emmerdale. F'real? Or wishful thinking? |
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Post by Steven on Jun 18, 2004 12:50:05 GMT
Ian is going to be left in a wheelchair a la Chris from Emmerdale. And yet he'll still get all the attractive women. |
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Post by billybathgate on Jun 18, 2004 13:24:03 GMT
And yet he'll still get all the attractive women. Attractive women? Eastenders? Surely some mistake? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2004 17:23:14 GMT
No, somebody dies besides Lynne's baby. Don't know who, though. I will kill myself if Kell-ay dies. It's bad enough that one of the few good actresses is being shipped out because she won't be featuring in Zo-ay's "exciting" "new" storylines, but death by helter skelter is like something dreamed up by Drug Dealer Rob from Hollyoaks after trapping people in a water tank doesn't work. EDIT: Erm, so, Kell-ay left for Ibiza today. Pointless black cab exit a la Beppe, but at least she is alive. Clearly I should read TV guides. |
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Post by moondial on Jun 18, 2004 23:17:22 GMT
EDIT: Erm, so, Kell-ay left for Ibiza today. Pointless black cab exit a la Beppe, but at least she is alive. At least she got to tell Spencer she loved him. Beppe only had time to buy a sandwich from the cafe. |
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Post by si on Jun 21, 2004 13:31:07 GMT
So who died?
Didn't this tragedy happen on Friday?
Or was it that yawnsome, no one bothered to reply?
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Post by QuincyMD on Jun 21, 2004 15:19:16 GMT
Not being an Eastenders watcher my money is on the bloke with the really crap goatee beard.
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Post by billybathgate on Jun 21, 2004 16:10:36 GMT
Not being an Eastenders watcher my money is on the bloke with the really crap goatee beard. There are types of goatee other than really crap ones? |
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Post by Chocolate on Jun 21, 2004 19:29:46 GMT
Who was that Martha who popped up today and everyone (well, Dot, Pauline, Den and the reasonably new Ladyden) seemed to have known for years? They might cheat us by making her the "main character" killed off.
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Post by James & The Jaunty Nyasu Vibes on Jun 22, 2004 22:02:15 GMT
I'm really not just bashing it because it's cool to now, but that was hilarious!
The biggest mistake being that your main character during all of this was Spencer.
FACT: Spencer shouting at Andy was the worst piece of acting in all history!
And then the slide collapsed in the most unimpressive way imaginable, with a bit of plywood falling towards the camera! And then a big piece flattening Lynne in a Python-esque fashion!
At least it was entertaining though.
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Post by Nick on Jun 22, 2004 23:35:04 GMT
It fell over the wrong way.
If they had really wanted an impressive soap disaster moment, they should have arranged for the tower to topple backwards away from the slide, and then the supports under the slide could have given way and the slide could have fallen into the space where the tower was the begin with, causing maximum carnage. Creeeeeeak! Smash! Scream! CRASH! Shudder! SMASH!, as opposed to just Creeeeeeak! Smash! Scream! It almost looked as if they didn't want it to fall over at all.
That said, it was actually still pretty great, though it seemed a little strange that the closing shot was of a bunch of confused looking people in the Queen Vic who hadn't even worked out what had happened yet. And Spencer is always an amusing / baffling focal point.
The best bit of the whole episode was when the big slide fell over. Did anyone see that bit?
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Post by si on Jun 23, 2004 9:13:58 GMT
Apart from the exciting ending, was there any point in watching the rest of the episode? Ian vs The Candy Floss Lady, Spencer overacting, Pauline ruining Dot's cake. Is this really the BBC's flagship soap?
I think the problem with the slide collapsing the wrong way was that we didn't get to see any of the victims -- where was the shot of Spencer cowering as plywood fell on his head? Where was Lynne shouting Oh, mar Gawd.. and making a run for it? Most importantly, where was the roof of the portacabin caving in on Pauline and Dot? We can guess that Lynne's going to lose the baby and Spencer was obviously involved, prolly the male Beale child too, but I thought that Dot and Pauline were trapped under debris and forced to reconcile their differences? I hope that it's not the usually they've-been-disabled-and-have-to-talk-it-through nonsense and that they have to don catsuits and work together Crystal Maze style to free themselves.
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Post by Steven on Jun 23, 2004 10:51:45 GMT
The biggest mistake being that your main character during all of this was Spencer. FACT: Spencer shouting at Andy was the worst piece of acting in all history! Word. In fact, I think this was possibly the most uniformly appallingly-acted episode of EastEnders I've ever seen, including the recent Kat and Alfie two-hander. Dot and Pauline? Dire. Spencer? Dire. (No change there, then.) Dennis? Dire. (Ditto.) Zoe? Dire - one of the least convincing crying scenes I can recall. I could also have done without that shot of the bolts coming loose they showed us approximately every two minutes, Tru Calling style, in case we suddenly developed temporary amnesia and missed all the falling anvils and weren't aware that Something Bad Was About To Happen. I'm beginning to think that Dramatic Tension and Convincing Acting hopped in the taxi with Kelly and Plausible Plotline and hotfooted it out of the Square for good. |
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Post by annakin on Jun 23, 2004 13:06:54 GMT
Was the Martha Woman not Johnathan Ross' mum? i know shes been in it from the word go and this episode did seem to be a chance to get all the long term "background artists" in on the act, even Big Ron got a name check.
Or maybe Im just to exsited having seen Winston speak for the first time in a year!
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Post by moondial on Jun 23, 2004 14:56:45 GMT
I'm beginning to think that Dramatic Tension and Convincing Acting hopped in the taxi with Kelly and Plausible Plotline and hotfooted it out of the Square for good. I doubt it would've gone in a taxi with Kelly since they all had managed to avoid her for the two years she was in the Square. Especially Plausible "I'm a lesbian, oh wait no I'm not" Plotline. |
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Post by Storm on Jun 23, 2004 15:55:23 GMT
This was abysmal. EastEnders really is a disgrace at the moment.
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Post by Elly on Jun 23, 2004 16:29:12 GMT
I wouldn't care less if Spencer hadn't been involved. As it is, I was quite concerned. He may be an appalling actor, he may not even be all that cute, but I find him so endearing in a kicked puppy sort of way. When he was on that tower I was actually shouting at the tv. I can't remember the last time Eastenders made me do that. Normally it just makes me bang my head against the wall.
I'm wondering how long it's going to be before the writers decide Cat and Spencer should have an affair. Stupid Alfie, doesn't even deserve Cat. *grumbles*
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Post by Steven on Jun 25, 2004 9:48:08 GMT
Last night's episode was frustrating. Every now and then there was a little glimpse of wit that reminded me of the old EastEnders I knew and loved, like when Spencer told Kat he thought he was going to faint:
KAT: (mockingly) "'Ere, Kel, your boyfriend got his foot stuck and passed out because he's such a big paaaaahnsay..."
But then there were moments where my flatmates and I got more exercise than we've had in months as we tried to dodge the chunks of gorgonzola falling from the ceiling, like when little Peter was carried from the wreckage and his bloody hand smeared the nameplate on Arthur's bench, or the bit where Ian was freed and Jane said "Well done" and held his hand. Vomit.
It's like they kept switching writers between scenes or something.
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