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Post by Nick on Apr 3, 2008 9:33:14 GMT
New British currency coin reverse designs have been unveiled! Here is one! Here is another one! Here are some more! Here they all are together! It's a jigsaw (hmmm), you see. Do you like them? Why do you like them? Perhaps you like jigsaws! Perhaps you think that splitting one image over the whole 'set' is a clever way of highlighting the aesthetic pleasantness of having a range of shapes, weights and sizes among our coinage, and the benefits of such a currency for our sight-impaired friends. Say some stuff about why you like them if you like them. Do you hate them? Why do you hate them? Perhaps you have tried to assemble them into a single picture and found that the pieces don't fit together properly like they would on a real jigsaw. Perhaps you have some issue with the loss of Britannia or the lack of a Welsh dragon or some problem like that. Say some stuff about why you hate them if you hate them. Do you feel indifferent to them? Why do you feel indifferent to them? Are you really not that bothered about the hugest currency design overhaul since decimalisation? You retard. Say some stuff about why you feel indifferent to them if you feel indifferent to them. This is REALLY INTERESTING, whether you like it or not.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Apr 3, 2008 9:46:55 GMT
I like them, it's like, collect 'em all. Are they going to update the Queen's jowls on the other side as well?
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Post by Nick on Apr 3, 2008 9:50:56 GMT
No, same jowly Queen rendering, apparently.
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Post by Bungle on Apr 3, 2008 10:06:47 GMT
I really like them. When are we getting plastic coated notes though?
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Post by Rad on Apr 3, 2008 10:20:03 GMT
I like them, but I don't want to lose the old ones - I'd rather they were a 'special edition' and we could keep the normal ones as well.
I am the kind of person who likes progression but also likes keeping everything the same. I am a bit mixed up.
(I may have dreamed about the coin change last night after seeing this news online yesterday)
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Apr 3, 2008 10:54:43 GMT
I like them, but I don't want to lose the old ones - I'd rather they were a 'special edition' and we could keep the normal ones as well. I am the kind of person who likes progression but also likes keeping everything the same. I am a bit mixed up. (I may have dreamed about the coin change last night after seeing this news online yesterday)Well we're not going to lose the old ones, coins stay in circulation for years, I don't think they are going to recall the old designs immediately.
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Post by Adrian on Apr 3, 2008 11:33:51 GMT
I like them too. I was going to point out that they were quite angular, 'modern', and half-there-half-not, but then you revealed their "jigsawyness" and that made my points redundant.
I shall have fun lining them up on pub tables in a jigsaw fashion.
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Post by Muinimula on Apr 3, 2008 12:02:23 GMT
What a marvellous idea. I really like it. As someone said, it makes you want to collect them all.
Not at all what I was expecting. Big smile from me, basically.
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Post by The Moog on Apr 3, 2008 13:12:28 GMT
I like this, it's good to have a revamp, and the overall design works.
The one penny and five pence are my favourites
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Post by LoveMusic on Apr 3, 2008 14:08:53 GMT
It makes me want to collect them all, in a Capitalist 'I want more money' way over a 'I want to hang them in a commerative frame' way.
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Post by David Hunter on Apr 3, 2008 16:19:58 GMT
If you hadn't told me they were a jigsaw I wouldn't have liked them. Individually they look like misshapes, as if they've been stamped out of the wrong piece of metal. Seeing them all together though makes a big difference.
Bank of Scotland recently redesigned all their notes so they look more like Euros. I was very confused first time the cash machine gave them to me and I was sure they were going to be rejected as they do virtually everywhere in London with Scottish money even though it's legal tender!
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Apr 3, 2008 16:41:56 GMT
If we get into the technicalities, only notes printed by the Bank of England are legal tender, Scottish notes aren't legal tender even in Scotland. Everything else, like Cheques, Credit and Debit cards, and Scottish and N. Irish notes are just commonly accepted forms of payment, so I think technically a shop can refuse to take them if it wants. But if they don't take them and lose business it's their own problem, because they are turning away a valid form of payment.
I think they get turned away because they are unfamiliar and therefore could be forgeries, because the person at the till in England wouldn't really know what a real one is supposed to look like and what security features it has.
Also coins are only legal tender when presented up to a certain limit. For example, 50p coins are only legal tender if the total amount doesn't exceed £10. Anything higher than that is not legal tender and can be refused. (Banks, obviously have to take it).
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Post by pauliepoos on Apr 3, 2008 16:53:06 GMT
A while ago we had a customer who paid for her lunch with a Scottish £5 note. Her friend then paid for hers with a bog standard £20, and as part of her change I gave her the Scottish fiver. She refused to accept it and asked for English money instead, even when I pointed out that it was still Stirling. That she was speaking Welsh to her friend in between speaking English to me was lost on her. I gave her £5 in British fifty pences, just to piss her off.
The new coins look lovely. I love anything shiny and new. Except virgins.
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Post by FeelsLikeKellyCrabtree on Apr 3, 2008 20:34:57 GMT
Don't get me started on what is legal tender in England and what isn't. I work for Bank of Scotland, but because we operate in England cannot give out anything but English notes. Despite this being the actual law of the land and, therefore, my job, I have lost count of the amount of times I have had to endure abuse from Scottish customers refusing to believe that we cannot give out Scottish notes.
An excellent example of this is when a Scottish woman came in wanting to take money from her account, specifically requesting that it was made up in crisp, new, Euro style Bank of Scotland notes. Having told her that we didn't have access to new notes and that we couldn't give out Scottish notes anyway she proceeded to rant on about how it was her money and she could do what she bloody well wanted with it and how dare I refuse her access to her own money. It soon transpired she was a customer of the Royal Bank of Scotland and not the Bank of Scotland anyway. The bitch.
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Post by Muinimula on Apr 3, 2008 23:48:56 GMT
On a side note, I hope there isn't a load of fuss about there being no Welsh bit on the shield. Especially as the designer himself is from Bangor and quite cute in a geeky way.
I find it amusing that the article from The Independent which I just read online includes the sentence, "This was the first coin design competition Mr Dent had entered." It makes me wonder how regularly they happen.
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Post by jode* on Apr 4, 2008 7:09:18 GMT
YUCK! They remind me of those football player coins people collected at World Cups in the 90s from Sainsbury's/a garage.
Plus, I feel very sorry for the lion getting squashed at the bottom right of the £1.
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Post by FeelsLikeKellyCrabtree on Apr 4, 2008 16:42:00 GMT
So are they not making any more £2 coins?
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Post by Bungle on Apr 4, 2008 16:51:41 GMT
It's staying the same.
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Post by Muinimula on Jun 21, 2008 19:40:21 GMT
Any sign of these yet? Wikipedia says they're appearing "late spring" - I wasn't sure if there was an actual date when they would come into circulation.
In addition to there being no Welsh bit on the shield, there's no Welsh bit on the Union flag either. I'm not even Welsh, but I think that's a bit ridiculous really.
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Post by Feral on Jun 22, 2008 7:43:28 GMT
In addition to there being no Welsh bit on the shield, there's no Welsh bit on the Union flag either. I'm not even Welsh, but I think that's a bit ridiculous really. The tedious answer is that Wales is not a kingdom – its a principality thats been part of England since 1200ish (or something like that). Thats the Royal Crest, and the symbols on it represent the three kingdoms of the UK: England, Scotland & Ireland, that the Queen claims the throne of. Similar reason for the Union Jack – the (first) union was between Scotland and England (which included wales, but not as a separate country), so that was the two basic crosses put together. Then there was another union with Ireland, so they then added the red stripy bit to represent that. The less tedious answer is that WE ALL HATE THE WELSH.* * Not really – they're actually very lovely.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Jun 22, 2008 16:49:50 GMT
Why should Wales get a Welsh bit on the coin set when the English, Scottish, N. Irish don't have separate bits either?
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Post by emma on Jun 22, 2008 16:55:58 GMT
RTD, I will not tolerate racism focused on currency.
Ordinary racism, knock yourself out.
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Post by Muinimula on Jun 22, 2008 17:11:24 GMT
Why should Wales get a Welsh bit on the coin set when the English, Scottish, N. Irish don't have separate bits either? England, Scotland and Ireland are all included in the shield. The crosses of those three flags also form the Union Jack. As FeralBB explained, it's all to do with Wales being historically part of England in the Middle Ages...or something. Anyway, I just would have thought they might have updated things by now, as nobody thinks of Wales being part of England anymore. There have even been suggestions for a new flag:
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Post by pauliepoos on Jun 22, 2008 18:17:08 GMT
It'd be a bit of a waste of time updating the Union Jack, seeing as the Union itself is fairly fragile.
That situation in Wales is very strange - the BNP had a record 5% share of the vote in the elections last year, despite a sense of Britishness being rejected by most people you'd find. The Proper Welsh wouldn't want their dragon tarnished by association with St George, and the non-Proper Welsh wouldn't really care one way or the other.
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Post by Feral on Jun 22, 2008 19:11:18 GMT
Don't be messing with the Union Jack - it's a design classic!
Maybe Prince Charles will be nice when he gets the Throne though (not that we want rid of Her Maj, obviously), and add a nice welsh dragon in one corner of the coat of arms. It'll save them repeating the English / Scottish bit like they do at the moment.
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