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Post by David Hunter on May 17, 2008 12:04:27 GMT
The more I read the thread, the happier I am to pay!
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Post by Joel on May 17, 2008 12:37:28 GMT
All the various David Attenborough programmes, for example, wouldn't exist without the licence fee. The sheer length of time and money they cost to create wouldn't be sanctioned elsewhere.
Newsnight, Question Time and the like probably wouldn't exist either. When you consisder that ITV's equivalent is Tonight With Trevor McDonald, whose general level of journalism is shocking exposé about fluffy kittens...
Channel 4 manages to make some interesting left-field stuff, but that was always its remit. Without the licence fee, BBC1 would be another ITV. BBC2 might manage to remain interesting, just. And BBCs 3 and 4 would turn to shit and die completely, respectively.
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Post by somethingbiblical on May 19, 2008 2:22:23 GMT
I like the idea of the TV licence and I think it's important to have a publicly owned TV and radio service. And the BBC, for all the criticisms, does provide a lot of excellent services. But it IS expensive, and when I start uni it will depend whether my dad offers to buy me one whether I have a licence or not.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on May 19, 2008 2:31:42 GMT
I just checked wikipedia and it seems I was wrong and most countries, or at least a lot have similar systems, and it costs a whopping €200 odd in Germany and they still have adverts. Greedy!
And I don't want to sound like a Daily Mail reader, but I think it's a bit unfair that prisoners don't have to pay for a TV license but students do. I get that prisoners don't have a source of income being in prison and all, but they could get their families to pay it on their behalf or something.
And have we discussed Kevin Spacey's accusation that the Nancy / Maria / Joseph programmes are major plugs for the west end shows and therefore violate the no-advert policy?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2008 3:35:41 GMT
I just checked wikipedia and it seems I was wrong and most countries, or at least a lot have similar systems, and it costs a whopping €200 odd in Germany and they still have adverts. Greedy! And I don't want to sound like a Daily Mail reader, but I think it's a bit unfair that prisoners don't have to pay for a TV license but students do. I get that prisoners don't have a source of income being in prison and all, but they could get their families to pay it on their behalf or something. And have we discussed Kevin Spacey's accusation that the Nancy / Maria / Joseph programmes are major plugs for the west end shows and therefore violate the no-advert policy? Or they could just not be allowed televisions?
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Post by David Hunter on May 19, 2008 10:17:09 GMT
A friend who was a prison officer told me about a mini-riot they had. The prisoners revolted because, although they had Sky on the main hall telly, they weren't allowed it in their cells!
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Post by Joel on May 19, 2008 13:15:40 GMT
Depends if each prison cell counts as a separate domicile. If the prison is one whole big domicile, they only need one licence for the whole building, even if they've got thousands of tvs in it. The prison probably gets one.
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Post by David Hunter on May 19, 2008 13:23:02 GMT
I think they all wanted individual boxes so they could watch what they wanted, not like a Blackpool guesthouse where they advertise Sky in all rooms, but the landlady decided which channels it's on.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on May 19, 2008 21:51:22 GMT
Well they consider student halls rooms separate domiciles. So I don't see a difference. In Russia prisoners don't sit in cells watching TV, they get sent to penal colonies where they chop down trees and do useful things.
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Post by Feral on May 19, 2008 22:00:10 GMT
I think the idea in British prisons is that if they're watching free TV, then at least they're not raping each other. Unless they're multitasking.
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Post by [james] on May 20, 2008 1:04:29 GMT
Just force them to watch Embarassing Illnesses and the urge to bumrape will soon go away.
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Post by somethingbiblical on May 20, 2008 12:56:50 GMT
If I was locked in a cell 23 hours out of 24 a day I'd hope there'd be a TV and I wouldn't have to pay for it out of the £10 a week I'm paid for working 9-5.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2008 14:31:48 GMT
If I was locked in a cell 23 hours out of 24 a day I'd hope there'd be a TV and I wouldn't have to pay for it out of the £10 a week I'm paid for working 9-5. I'm confused. How are you working 9-5 if you're locked in a cell for 23 hours a day? Cottage industry? But either way, it's very simple, don't commit a crime and you wont have to.
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Post by [james] on May 20, 2008 15:20:30 GMT
They get given jobs to do within the prison and the hour they're not in their cells in an hour's outdoors exercise time. All of this is based on Sideshow Bob episodes fact. I also assume they have orange jumpsuits and make license plates.
But I do agree with the no crime arguement. You can't commit a crime then complain about getting punished for it.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2008 15:25:30 GMT
They get given jobs to do within the prison and the hour they're not in their cells in an hour's outdoors exercise time. All of this is based on Sideshow Bob episodes fact. I also assume they have orange jumpsuits and make license plates. But I do agree with the no crime arguement. You can't commit a crime then complain about getting punished for it. It was never like that in Larkhall!
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Post by Rad on May 20, 2008 16:24:56 GMT
Any chance we can get this back on topic before it descends into the type of heated debate we end up having to lock?
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Post by Robbing the Dead on May 20, 2008 18:22:41 GMT
If I was locked in a cell 23 hours out of 24 a day I'd hope there'd be a TV and I wouldn't have to pay for it out of the £10 a week I'm paid for working 9-5. If I commited a crime that was serious enough to have me sent to jail I would be thinking that maybe I don't have the right to get what I want.
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Post by somethingbiblical on May 20, 2008 23:51:59 GMT
If I was locked in a cell 23 hours out of 24 a day I'd hope there'd be a TV and I wouldn't have to pay for it out of the £10 a week I'm paid for working 9-5. I'm confused. How are you working 9-5 if you're locked in a cell for 23 hours a day? Cottage industry? But either way, it's very simple, don't commit a crime and you wont have to. Lol I was thinking of the weekends *winkwink* I was trying to play a bit of devils advocate there, as well as shoehorn in some things I learned in the dissertation I wrote in about two days the other week, and it clearly failed, so oh well.
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Post by [james] on May 21, 2008 0:35:32 GMT
I like watching BBC! Tanya Turner for Mayor of London! Government bonuses for postmen!
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Post by David Hunter on May 21, 2008 12:39:37 GMT
But I do agree with the no crime arguement. You can't commit a crime then complain about getting punished for it. But I was stitched up! What happens if you're put in jail for not paying your license fee? Do you still get a telly?
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Post by [james] on May 21, 2008 13:05:44 GMT
The Irony Police would have to get involved. Oddly there's no such force in America.
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Post by emma on May 25, 2008 21:21:15 GMT
Prisoners make 25% of Premier League football goal nets. Truefax. They also make the leather belts and embellishments of prison officer's uniforms.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2008 22:18:26 GMT
Prisoners make 25% of Premier League football goal nets. Truefax. They also make the leather belts and embellishments of prison officer's uniforms. Do they make the holes by biting down on them whilst being made love to by the nice screws?
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Post by emma on May 25, 2008 22:36:10 GMT
....I'll get back to you on that!
I believe the inmates of Broadmoor make and sell soft toys, though this may not be happening anymore.
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Post by somethingbiblical on Jun 12, 2008 21:29:33 GMT
Hah, my friend just got busted for not having a TV license because apparently they're allowed to blow up your house if you don't let them in.
So don't mess with the TV license people kids!
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