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Post by David Hunter on Mar 19, 2007 11:39:30 GMT
I so want to live in a house with a padded balcony now. I already have the five fingered lamp.
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Post by smellslikesomeghost on Mar 30, 2007 20:54:35 GMT
So just how ace was this weeks episode? The line about a spastic in a magnet factory followed by Sam saying "OH, you missed out the jews" had us laughing a lot in the ghostie house. Somehow DI Hunt stays just the right side of turning it into comedy. I also suddenly remembered that back when I was a tot police cars really were pale blue. Excellent show.
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Post by pops on Mar 31, 2007 15:21:35 GMT
So just how ace was this weeks episode? The line about a spastic in a magnet factory followed by Sam saying "OH, you missed out the jews" had us laughing a lot in the ghostie house. Somehow DI Hunt stays just the right side of turning it into comedy. I also suddenly remembered that back when I was a tot police cars really were pale blue. Excellent show. After a bit of a slow start, this second series has been great, but I'm glad they're winding it up now. I can't imagine ever getting tired of Gene Hunt, but I think there probably are only so many times I can see Sam bump into a younger version of someone he knows/almost kiss Annie/suffer an adverse reaction to medical treatments.
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Post by Nick on Apr 4, 2007 9:35:39 GMT
How's it going to end?
Fantastic thing in next week's Radio Times with a bunch of POSSIBLE clues and POSSIBLE red herrings and general hints and suggestions and speculation, supposedly compiled without any knowledge of the real explanation whatsoever. Among this 'evidence':
In a blurry shot of Sam's hospital ward (if he really is in a coma, etc etc) in the first episode of the second series, The Sweeney was playing on a TV in the room! OR WAS IT?
The poster of the soon-to-be-built-although-it-had-actually-already-been-built-by-then Mancunian way that Sam saw when he woke up in 1973 right at the start of the series showed a picture of a sliproad leading onto the main motorway, which represented the divergence convergence of two timelines with Sam caught in the middle. OR DID IT?
Frank Morgan, the DCI from Hyde who turned up in last night's episode and seems to hold the key to it all has the same name as the man in The Wizard of Oz who was pretending to be the Wizard of Oz! Although he wasn't a DCI. OR WAS HE?
OR IS IT?
OR ARE THEY?
OR WILL THEY?
etc.
This is what I couldn't help noticing
Sam was wearing the same colours as DCI Morgan From Hyde in last night's one, if that's any help. Also, Sam and Morgan both have short hair when all around them do not.
ALSO, if you take the 'C' from 'DCI', which was the bit of his rank that Sam lost when he woke up in 1973, and attach it to 'Sam', you get 'CSAM', which is an anagram of 'casm', which is almost 'chasm', which indicates that Sam may have fallen down a chasm in time, whatever that is, and THAT is what has happened, even if it doesn't explain anything at all.
ALSO, at the end of the first series Ray was demoted from DS to DC, and then he was promoted back to his old rank at the start of the second series. If you take the 'wildcard' letters (S and C) and attach them to his name, you get 'RAYS' (raise) and 'RAYC' (rake). I haven't had the chance to go back over the two series yet, but I'm pretty sure that a look back over the past 15 episodes will show someone in the background at some point raising a rake. Think about it. There's something significant there. I feel.
ALSO, Annie has gigantic eyes. 'I' is Sam's police rank within CID. Annie's rank is 'C'; in other words, she is a 'DC' to Sam's 'DI'. If you take 'D' and 'C' out of 'CID', you are left with 'I'. Annie has gigantic eyes. Coincidence? Hardly.
ALSO, If you take 'CID' out of 'coincidence', you get 'oncience'. A little juggling around of the letters, and you have 'onceinec', or 'once in ec'. But what does 'ec' stand for? European Community? Elephant and Castle? Easy Chair? Frustratingly, the clues seem to stop there, but perhaps this is the key to the whole thing.
Endless further theories to come, I'm sure.
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Post by David on Apr 4, 2007 10:28:02 GMT
My theories:
1. You have too much time on your hands.
2. I want a credit for a bit of that theory with Sam Tyler/Frank Morgan.
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Post by Nick on Apr 4, 2007 11:07:20 GMT
Credited.
(Not the bit about them wearing the same colours, though.)
You can have the rake theory too, if you like.
ALSO, maybe it'll be just like eXistenZ at the end!
ALSO, if it isn't a dream, either Sam's mind has been tampered with in a very specific way, or else he has been taken back in time, both of which are quite unlikely and interesting.
M I N D T I M E
M T I I N M E D
M I N T D I M E
MINT DIME
Mint dime.
Coincidence?!
OR HAVE THEY?
Think about it.
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Post by David on Apr 4, 2007 11:12:27 GMT
And remember, folks, that Nick would have more of a chance of finding out what is going to happen then the rest of us.
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Post by Nick on Apr 4, 2007 11:44:17 GMT
MINT DIME
Annie has a pair of gigantic eyes!
But I = eye = Eye.
I I = E E
M E N T D E M E
DEMENTED
Demented!
Of course!
He really IS just mad!
Well, that's a tidy and disappointing end to a great series.
IN ACTUAL FACT, I read the lengthy complete billing for the final episode at work today, and it doesn't give much away apart from the fact that Sam DOES find out what's happening, and then (at a rather inconvenient time) so does everybody else. But I wouldn't put it past Life On Mars to feed us one explanation and then turn it on its head in the final ten minutes.
ALSO, if you take the initials of the five principle characters - STGHACRCCS - you basically get the word 'Stegosaurus'. Could Sam have gone EVEN further back in time than he expected? Or maybe HE'S the dinosaur, not Gene, and he's projecting his MIND forwards through TIME (mint dime, etc) into 1973, and THEN even further ahead to 2006/7, from the dinosaurrific Jurassic Period!
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Post by David on Apr 4, 2007 12:20:13 GMT
Just to add to this that MORGAN (as in Frank) sounds a bit like MORGEN which means "tomorrow" in German and various Nordic languages.
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Post by Ceeb on Apr 4, 2007 13:17:04 GMT
Frank Morgan, the DCI from Hyde who turned up in last night's episode and seems to hold the key to it all has the same name as the man in The Wizard of Oz who was pretending to be the Wizard of Oz! Gene also keeps saying "Don't go all Dorothy on me" to Sam. Spooky...!
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Post by Rad on Apr 4, 2007 14:00:48 GMT
Maybe, Sam is realy Mister Saxon, and is also really...
(etc)
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Post by Nick on Apr 5, 2007 22:23:44 GMT
Hi!
I am watching the first episode of Life On Mars on VOD, because apparently that is how I choose to spend my Friday nights.
Fact #1: You can see the corner of the UNITE building I used to live in for a split second as Sam is driving along along the Mancunian Way, just before he gets knocked down in 2006 (OR DOES HE? etc).
Fact #2: Sam says "Follow the yellow brick road" to Annie!
Astonishing.
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Post by Ceeb on Apr 5, 2007 22:48:01 GMT
I am watching the first episode of Life On Mars on VOD, because apparently that is how I choose to spend my Friday nights. It's Thursday - unless I am Sam Tyler and have slipped into a coma where I am forever trapped in yesterday. Or you are Sam Tyler and have slipped in a coma where you are forever trapped in tomorrow!
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Post by David on Apr 5, 2007 23:55:20 GMT
Oz magazine stopped publishing in... 1973.
I passed a gold 1973 Mercedes on the road yesterday.
1973 saw the release of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" album, believed widely to, when played with "The Wizard of Oz" film, correspond to events that happen in said film.
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Post by Nick on Apr 6, 2007 0:24:43 GMT
I am watching the first episode of Life On Mars on VOD, because apparently that is how I choose to spend my Friday nights. It's Thursday - unless I am Sam Tyler and have slipped into a coma where I am forever trapped in yesterday. Or you are Sam Tyler and have slipped in a coma where you are forever trapped in tomorrow! Well, it FEELS like Friday. Perhaps I just accidentally found the key to the whole thing! I can't think of any other explanation. Amazing! I am.
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Post by Nick on Apr 7, 2007 9:46:46 GMT
Oh, Heat (appear to) give quite a lot away in their preview this week.
OR DO THEY???
Well, it's as good an explanation as any.
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Post by frapperia on Apr 10, 2007 21:00:14 GMT
I thought that was a rather underwhelming ending!
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Post by Bungle on Apr 10, 2007 21:09:53 GMT
It now seems difficult to think of any other way it could have ended, which is a compliment.
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Post by Ceeb on Apr 10, 2007 21:13:06 GMT
My thoughts exactly - the Wizard of Oz references are probably just that - neat little nods if you understand and who cares if you don't.
Also does anyone else want the Spin-off to not go ahead now? It would ruin such a beautiful ending I think, not because it would be rubbish
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Post by raspberry on Apr 10, 2007 21:22:33 GMT
I have always thought that the spin off was a red herring. I thought it was quite a bleak ending, I was really quite upset at how grey the real world was/is.
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Post by David Hunter on Apr 10, 2007 21:38:43 GMT
Oh I really loved the ending. I was hoping it wouldn't end with Sam coming out of the coma with Annie, Ray and Chris sitting round the bed and a 'you were there, and you were there, and you' Oz style ending.
I liked the way it was quite bleak, then he was able to go back.
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Post by Nick on Apr 10, 2007 22:34:28 GMT
I used to live next to the Hulme Arch! etc.
They covered all their bases and managed to get in all the stuff that 'we' want, I suppose. You had the coming-out-of-coma scene, which was good, but he also got to carry on playing with Annie's skirt and making eyes at Gene forever and ever, as well as doing something decisive himself rather than letting his manipulative brain make all the decisions for him.
2007 DID look crap, though (apart from the brief shot with the Arch and Beetham/Hilton Tower). If Life On Mars has taught us anything, it's that we should all jump off buildings tomorrow morning and wake up in 1973. Only then will we know true contentment.
Somebody else go first.
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Post by David on Apr 10, 2007 22:51:09 GMT
i quite liked it and made we wish i'd watched the show. Though for anyone who's seen Vanilla Sky it was pretty familiar territory (to the point of plaguerism) You should have watched it then, and you'd have seen that that scene juxtaposed perfectly with the final scene in episode one of the first series where Annie talks him out of jumping off the same roof at the same point in 1973.
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Post by Steven on Apr 11, 2007 6:48:43 GMT
I did like the ending (and as I think someone said above, it's hard to see how else they could have ended it), but I also found it underwhelming after all the hype. Is Sam mad? In a coma? Or back in time? Er, yes, he's in a coma, just as we've been expressly stating in pretty much every episode when we have a little moment where the doctors try something new to wake him up and he goes a bit mental for a few minutes. I dunno, part of me was just hoping it was going to be a little more complicated than it actually was.
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Post by David on Apr 11, 2007 9:01:48 GMT
The prospect of The Gene Hunt Show (OK, Ashes To Ashes)sounded great, until I read the following this morning: Oh god. How on earth can anything featuring Gene Hunt be related in any possible way to Moonlighting or Miami Vice? news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6542633.stm
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