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Post by si on Jul 10, 2004 10:51:53 GMT
Davina's behavior last night was fucking disgusting.
It's obviously been a mistake to have the hosting outside and although it fits in with the evil concept, it's time they admit it's not really working. That, or Davina needs to do her job and work the crowd.
Becki was dullsville, but what did she do to warrant that level of booing last night -- she played the game. If she had chosen Jason or maybe Victor, she'd probably still be in the house. Instead, she chose Michelle and was visibly cut up about it. When she left the house, she handled herself with dignity beyond what was really expected of her under those circumstances. During the interview, it was obvious that Davina had no interest in talking to Becki and a personal dislike for her (much the same as her chat with Vanessa). Davina, this is your job, love. When you don't like a housemate, you make the effort to at least appear as if you do, for their sake, and for their representation to the live audience's sake. This is especially important when the live audience is practically baying for the housemate's blood as was the case last night.
One word from Davina (the show's five year figurehead and an icon to the kind of fans who actually go down to the house on eviction nights) could have silenced the audience. She has all the power there, Becki none of it. Davina could easily have pacified the crowd and got them to hush up while Becki explained and defended herself. Instead, Davina was no better than the yobs and hooligans who took things too far with Becki last night. I understand that's the nature of the beast, but there is no way that a person off the street deserves that sort of treatment -- and I see Davina as to blame.
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Post by rondette on Jul 10, 2004 12:29:42 GMT
I'm glad/annoyed I missed it last night. It sounded really awful, from what I've read.
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Post by elmsyrup on Jul 10, 2004 15:46:06 GMT
All that about "Becki picked the wrong person" is totally missing the point though. That's not why I object to her. I dislike her because she's obsessed with talking about sex to the point of making people uncomfortable, she tried to shag Stuart for a while (doing that horrible "it's just finding the right couple to get inbetween" thing) before it was made clear she really wasn't getting anywhere, she had a go at Dan for not liking vaginas and went on at him "if I sucked your cock you'd enjoy it" which is really fucking rude and tacky, she subtly pressured and blackmailed Nadia (starting discussions about transsexuality "by mistake"), her fucking irritating faux new age shite and her PUT ON fake girly baby voice, and the general look of desperation and psychosis in her eyes suggesting she really is a bit unbalanced... I could go on. And if she was in the test group in the house and was a stand by it's absolute bollocks to say she wasn't watching the show avidly. She'll have seen it every year.
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Post by blahblah on Jul 11, 2004 17:50:42 GMT
I've never liked Davina doing the eviction night interviews.
She is obsessed with the sexual shenanigans within the house and it just comes across as really childish instead of focussing on more interesting happenings/events/characters in the house.
Interviewing evictees in front of the crowd is a dreadful idea and hasn't worked at all. Whether the housemate is liked or disliked, it's impossible for a decent interview to take place due to the loud boos or cheers.
I really wish Dermot O'Leary would do it as he's far more involved with the show and he has the wit which seems to elude the awful Davina.
I felt for Becki even though I didn't like her.
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Post by si on Jul 11, 2004 18:51:41 GMT
All that about "Becki picked the wrong person" is totally missing the point though. That's not why I object to her. This is why you don't like her, but from the response of the crowd, picking the wrong person was the reason most of them didn't like her. |
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Post by mrdiscopop on Jul 11, 2004 21:44:01 GMT
They're not going to stop the interviews outside, unfortunately. They'll have to get their money's worth from the set...
I'm slightly suspicious of the jeering crowd. In the house, at least, the booing sounds like its being played off tape. Outside, it seems less pronounced (although still there).
Dermot to replace Davina, I say.
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Post by Sparkle on Jul 12, 2004 10:11:39 GMT
The Friday night shows are just not working at all. The way there's the raised stage in the middle of the crowd, the interview being held outside...it just sucks. Even if you don't like a housemate, it's embarrassing and awful to have to watch them stand in front of all those people and get booed. I've been no fan of Vanessa, Marco or Becki, but they didn't deserve that humiliation.
Every time I look at Davina now I can't help but think of Ben Elton's Dead Famous. Her to a tee.
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Post by Mimternet on Jul 13, 2004 15:43:14 GMT
You have all got to be kidding!
The Friday night shows are brilliant. They just get better and better each week with Marco's being the best so far.
If these fools get booed all the better for them going into the show. I do think it is bad that people were shouting abuse but that is the individual doing the shouting's fault not Davina's. It isn't Davina's job to do crowd control and I doubt that one comment from her is going to hush a yob out to get his voice on TV.
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Post by blahblah on Jul 13, 2004 17:30:29 GMT
I have no problem with people booing but it was far better before when the people booed and then the contestant went inside after running the gauntlet of the public.
Then, when Davina was interviewing them, you could hear what they had to say rather than listening to loud cheers or boos coming from the crowd.
It doesn't work for me. I like to hear what the contestants say.
And Davina's just a tit. She adds nothing to the show, she takes from it.
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Post by Mimternet on Jul 14, 2004 12:30:21 GMT
Davina is the show.
She was destined for greatness ever since Streetmate and although Big Brother is obviously about the contestants it wouldn't be half as good without Davina presenting Friday nights.
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Post by blahblah on Jul 15, 2004 10:40:10 GMT
Davina is nothing. She could be replaced by any dim presenter type from Lisa Rogers to Gail Porter and no-one would notice.
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Post by smellslikesomeghost on Jul 15, 2004 14:34:35 GMT
Davina is the show. She was destined for greatness ever since Streetmate and although Big Brother is obviously about the contestants it wouldn't be half as good without Davina presenting Friday nights. So not true. She is a hard faced tart who got lucky. Her presenting is often incompetent and she has a way too high opinion of herself. I think that initially she had a lovel chatty manner and she was able to seem like "one of us" asking the questions that we the public would. Now though, she hardly seems to care about the programme, her enthusiasm has dwindled and she cares only for the pay.Yes presenting a live show is difficult, as proven by the countless failures on RI:SE etc, but decent presenters are around. I'd like to see Dermot get the main job, or Iain Lee or some such. Or Liza Tarbuck? |
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Post by si on Jul 15, 2004 15:07:20 GMT
Right, right, right, smellslike.
No one is bigger than the show they star in, which has been proven many times by key actors leaving programmes only to have them continue to be successful. ER was supposedly doomed after Doug Ross left, but it's still going strong (bad example, but kind of relevant).
The everyman thing doesn't work when the everyman presenter is wealthier than the everyman viewer, which is why the relationship breaks down. As it happening with Davina.
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Post by James & The Jaunty Nyasu Vibes on Jul 16, 2004 19:21:58 GMT
I'm slightly suspicious of the jeering crowd. In the house, at least, the booing sounds like its being played off tape. Outside, it seems less pronounced (although still there). . They play fake crowd noise into the house on eviction nights so as to mask the real reactions (well, they hear them for a bit when Davina talks, or just before the doors close) |
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Post by Steven on Jul 16, 2004 22:14:36 GMT
Well, they moved the interview indoors this week "because [Ahmed has] a lot to tell us and we want to be sure we can hear it".
Yes, I'm sure that's the reason. Especially seeing as he has been somewhat reticent so far. Davina's really showing her lack of interview skills here. She didn't used to be this bad, did she? I'm sure she was much better during BB1/BB2.
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Post by James & The Jaunty Nyasu Vibes on Jul 16, 2004 23:54:10 GMT
Am I imagining things or did she really tell him that he was being "like a brick wall" and get arsey?
She did, didnt she!
She's rubbish! Boo!
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Post by Mimternet on Jul 17, 2004 1:07:47 GMT
Her presenting is often incompetent and she has a way too high opinion of herself. I think that initially she had a lovel chatty manner and she was able to seem like "one of us" asking the questions that we the public would. Now though, she hardly seems to care about the programme, her enthusiasm has dwindled and she cares only for the pay. I don't know how you can think this. You can't say whether she has or has not got a high opinion of herself from wathing Big Brother. Everytime I've seen a behind the scenes of Big Brother with Davina she knows more about the show than I do! I even watched her give a mean impression of Nadia. Davina is fantastic, always has been, always will be. Dermot is equally good but he owns Little Brother, it wouldn't be as good the other way around. |
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Post by zaffra on Jul 17, 2004 15:09:14 GMT
kr=James & The Jaunty Nyasu Vibes link=board=bb&thread=1089456713&start=15#1 date=1090022050]
Am I imagining things or did she really tell him that he was being "like a brick wall" and get arsey?
She's rubbish! Boo![/quote]
She was rubbish. Okay Ahmed wasn't that easy, but she never even got him talking properly on a couple of subjects, saying 'okay were getting nowhere', then she just turns around and mugs at the camera.
At least when the interview was outside you had the feeling that someone might invade the set and tear the evicted contestant limb from limb.
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Post by Elly on Jul 18, 2004 17:16:45 GMT
Well, I for one think that Davina does a great job, and is to BB what ketchup is to fries. I don't understand how people can make the assumption that because her interviews have been a bit off, she has ideas above her station. If anything, this new style is great - really in keeping with the evil BB theme. I think she's let certain housmates off far too easily in the past.
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Post by si on Jul 18, 2004 17:57:01 GMT
If anything, this new style is great - really in keeping with the evil BB theme. I think she's let certain housmates off far too easily in the past. But that totally contradicts what Davina's about. The housemates themselves have commented on how comforting Davina's 'I'm coming to get you!' is -- how mortified must they feel when they come out to find that everywoman Davina is willing to sacrifice their eviction interview in favour of crowding screaming obscenities at them? |
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