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Post by raspberry on Sept 10, 2006 15:22:50 GMT
also Honey is a good wee actress, no? I agree junky, I the wedding and thought that she was much better written and acted than I remembered.
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Post by xenomaniac on Sept 10, 2006 16:01:28 GMT
Honey has really really suprised me. After the Epidoodle crap when giving birth she has acted her socks off.
They had 7 visitors round the bed though, that upset me.
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Post by jem on Sept 11, 2006 9:00:01 GMT
I really enjoyed Easties, it may have been becasue I was too ill to change the channel on Sunday but the baby story line was so sad. I was really annoyed at the way the hospital acted there's no way that the doctor would take so long to see the babay particularly in light of the possible complications.
Honey was really good, yher and billy are such a nice but hapless couple it'll be interesting to see how they play this storyline out.
On another point I did not need the mental image of peggy having sex.
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Post by I Hate Lana Lang on Sept 11, 2006 10:31:34 GMT
I am sick of the sight of Billy Mitchell's crushed old man face always looking miserable.
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Post by booers on Sept 11, 2006 11:07:01 GMT
On another point I did not need the mental image of peggy having sex. But sex with Honey's dad who is quite the old man hunk. I think I will be in aminority here on that one!
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Post by groopie on Sept 11, 2006 12:06:22 GMT
However, the whole thing was spoiled by continually cutting to the Gary/Minty/SJ non-story. Grr.
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Post by raspberry on Sept 11, 2006 20:25:37 GMT
Did anyone watch the 9/11 episode tonight? I couldn't decide if it was terrible or inspired. Billy was doing scruncy-faced aggitated on top of his usual scruchy-faced miserablism in a tube carrage after the train had to stop.
A fat bloke in suit felt he needed to step in to try and get him to shut up and sit down. He made two ethnic minority woman uncomfortable and shouted abuse at a third. Of course it wasn't racially motivated he was just stressed about the baby and a missing Honey.
It was great in the respect that I geniunly had no idea where the writers were taking the situation. The other passingers were reacting to his behaviour in real ways. I felt that in any moment Billy could lash out at someone and end up adding prison to his and Honey's woes. In the end the fat bloke n the suit reminded him what day it was and that it was 'five years' since 'they' attacked. I was cooking my dinner, so by pacing between living room and kitchen I missed large gaps but what I did see suprised me. It was geniuniely good despite it being Eastenders and despite it featuring Billy Mitchell.
The vauge nature of the fat man's 9/11 monolgue peeved me slightly, but what I saw also moved me.
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Post by Nick on Sept 12, 2006 6:52:38 GMT
Possibly the first time that a scene full of resolutely silent extras made events in a soap more realistic, rather than completely stupid and shit.
However, in all other respects the whole thing was completely stupid and shit.
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Post by Adrian on Sept 12, 2006 8:52:29 GMT
It took the usual EastEnders plot device of talking-to-a-stranger-forces-one-to-re-evaluate--life to a whole new level.
I totally agree with junkie, it was completely laboured and just felt very forced and fake. And, what, exactly was the point?
Agree also with Nick, the extras being silent and their shocked looks were hilarious. Rubbish, but hilarious.
The producers of EastEnders have clearly never been on the tube:
1) Look how bloody clean it was. 2) Their train engine didn't make any noise. Even when the train's stopped, there is noise. 3) You could hear the driver, instead of a garbled zzzzzzzzhhhhhhhhhwwwwwwwwzzzzzzzzz sound. 4) None of the passengers were listening to music.
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Post by groopie on Sept 12, 2006 11:15:35 GMT
I was moved to state out loud to an empty room "I hate Eastenders" when the man waved the Evening Standard at Billy.
Aside from the rubbish 9/11 thing - I wasn't aware of anyone in London going about their business any differently - if the bloke was as 'common' as was being made out he would surely have been reading Lite or thelondonpaper.
NB as a point of order, we do not have delis in Bethnal Green.
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Post by raspberry on Sept 13, 2006 19:12:45 GMT
I thought it would have been great if it hadn't been a 9/11 'tribute' and Billy had gone completely mental. He was violent in the past but the 'love of Little Mo' changed him.
Imagine the potential for drama. This a man having the worst day of his life, desperately worried about his missing wife and stuck on a tube train. This was a man with anger management issues already pushed to his limits being needled by a wanker in a suit assuming superiority over him.
If the writers had some back bone, or were bothered about staying true to the characters, Billy would have nutted him,
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Post by Michael on Sept 14, 2006 10:12:36 GMT
They never refer to Billy's violent past do they? He's just lovable old Billy these days.
I was always amazed that they pulled off that complete change of character. Mind you, he was only ever violent to Jamie, so I can forgive him. I hated Jamie.
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Post by Steven on Sept 16, 2006 9:26:51 GMT
Does Sean Slater have a musical theatre background like Dennis had? Watching him leap over the bar and threaten to punch Billy last night just seemed very...ballet. It was all so smoothly-executed, like watching an animation or something. It was distracting because it was so choreographed and fake-looking.
No complaints about the wet shirt, though. Woof.
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Post by Nick on Sept 17, 2006 7:19:30 GMT
I believe Sean Slater is one of the UK's 'top stage fighters', and 'was the second person to receive the highest accolade available from the British Academy of Dramatic Combat'.
Which is a bit like ballet for men! As, of course, is ballet.
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Post by Nurse Dunkley on Sept 17, 2006 9:26:39 GMT
Has Sean Slater taken his top off yet? I've missed a few weeks, but ancient soap law dictates that the new 'hunk' has to get his top off within a week or two of arrival. He's been there for about a month now - Easties had better not be the first to buck this trend.
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Post by Rad on Sept 17, 2006 15:42:27 GMT
Turn Ben into a proper ten year old, he seems about six which is like the anti-Neighbours (where they age kids about 3 years - e.g. the triplets)
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Post by Michael on Sept 18, 2006 8:55:19 GMT
I think they are planning long-term for Ben. He's going to be a gay when he grows up, which will really piss off Phil. Of course, he might need to go away for a year or two when he's 16 and come back with a new face.
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Post by pops on Sept 18, 2006 20:19:19 GMT
Kathy's genes are obviously much stronger than Phil's. As Peggy has pointed out, Ben doesn't seem very Mitchell-like, but he is so whiny and annoying I have no trouble believing he's Ian's brother.
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Post by charliepops on Sept 21, 2006 1:30:11 GMT
I suggest that the one and only way to save Eastenders is to film it live and introduce about 500 new characters in a single week. Once all these characters are established, the fun can begin.
A plot must be introduced in which Dot, having grown tired of Christianity, turns to satanism instead and accidentally summons Jack the Ripper to return to the East End.
Each episode from now on will involve a text vote in which viewers vote for which character should die by the end of the episode and Jack will kill them in increasingly bloody and imaginative ways before the end credits.
Finally the cast will be windled down to a perfect few who the viwers have elected to be the survivors of the massacre. Meanwhile, Jack the Ripper, having fallen in love Pat, will be introduced as a regular cast member.
This really is the only way to secure the future of Eastenders.
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Post by klee on Sept 21, 2006 9:02:11 GMT
Meanwhile, Jack the Ripper, having fallen in love Pat, will be introduced as a regular cast member. At which point they'll announce their engagement in The Vic and Peggy will giggle before declaring "drinks are on the arse" - for the umpteenth time this year. Actually, why not send Peggy on a spurious camping holiday and make her re-enact her Carry On past. I bet the bra's got scaffolding in it now though, so anyone who gets hit in the face with it will get a broken nose.
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Post by Nurse Dunkley on Sept 21, 2006 11:17:22 GMT
Didn't she have a boob job? Or was it just her face she had remolded a year or so back?
(She's quite open about it all by the way, so I'm sure it's ok to discuss.)
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Post by Steven on Sept 21, 2006 22:00:02 GMT
Pat and Peggy discussing Billy and Honey's baby having Down's syndrome plumbed Hollyoaks-like depths of bad, cliché-strewn dialogue for issues-led storylines, I thought.
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Post by pauliepoos on Sept 21, 2006 22:47:28 GMT
Has Sean Slater taken his top off yet? This message is sponsored by FamousMales. It's on next Monday.
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Post by caisforlovers on Sept 22, 2006 0:18:38 GMT
How can EastEnders stop being shit?
See above post.
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Post by MoondialSlater on Sept 22, 2006 22:42:53 GMT
Each episode from now on will involve a text vote in which viewers vote for which character should die by the end of the episode and Jack will kill them in increasingly bloody and imaginative ways before the end credits. R........U..........B..........Y
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