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Post by jem on Jul 10, 2006 18:34:45 GMT
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Jul 10, 2006 18:52:50 GMT
FINALLY!
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Post by [james] on Jul 10, 2006 19:36:51 GMT
What's the betting she dies in a freak tanning accident, a la Final Destination 3?
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Jul 10, 2006 20:38:26 GMT
She gets murdered in a racist attack, when she is mistaken for a black woman.
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Post by Joel on Jul 10, 2006 21:45:25 GMT
Well of course she's leaving. When Sonia goes she'll have no-one to glower at and when Martin goes she'll no longer be able to 'make Martin his tea' and will serve no purpose. Pauline won't leave, she'll just quietly cease to exist and no-one will notice.
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Post by LoveMusic on Jul 10, 2006 22:20:37 GMT
I think she will die in a fire, clutching her husband's photo and slowly rocking
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Post by Nurse Dunkley on Jul 10, 2006 22:32:06 GMT
I want that little dog of hers to rip her throat out when she sleeps. In reality (soapwise) though, she'll probably just go and live with Michelle.
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Post by I Hate Lana Lang on Jul 10, 2006 22:42:25 GMT
She serves no dramatic purpose whatsoever.
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Post by Bungle on Jul 11, 2006 0:00:08 GMT
Good. The thing is, Pauline from 1985 is lovely, a poor woman battling against an evil mother-in-law, trying to do the best for her kids with no money, &c. Now she's just a spiteful old bitch. I hope she gets a good send off.
This might give the show a good shot in the arm.
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Post by Steven on Jul 11, 2006 7:10:46 GMT
The thing is, Pauline from 1985 is lovely, a poor woman battling against an evil mother-in-law, trying to do the best for her kids with no money, &c. Now she's just a spiteful old bitch. Exactly. I remember when I used to like Pauline. Now, on the rare occasion that I actually watch this show, I just sit there yelling "shut up you old hag" over all of Pauline's dialogue. She's a completely unsympathetic character these days.
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Post by klee on Jul 11, 2006 8:53:24 GMT
Aren't women meant to turn into their own mothers rather than their mothers-in-law?
I rather suspect the writers turned her into a tedious spiteful bitch in a Candice from Corrie-esque bid to highlight the hatefulness of Wendy Richards. That day-glo exterior masks a soul of pure flint.
Perhaps she'll bore herself to death or cop it in a freak allotment accident. In all likelihood it's Florida or the Queen Vic burning down (again).
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Post by Nurse Dunkley on Jul 11, 2006 9:04:08 GMT
I have read Wendy Richard's autobiography. It was quite good, she had a mentalist stalker try and stab her to death once. You'll have to buy the book to find out if he succeeded.
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Post by Bungle on Jul 11, 2006 10:40:23 GMT
Actually, I was wrong - Lou was her mother, of course, not her mother-in-law.
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Post by ironical on Jul 11, 2006 11:29:04 GMT
I read that she used to constantly change her script to suit herself. When Pauline gave a toast during Sonia and Martin's wedding, Wendy decided she didn't like any of it and changed several minutes of dialogue. Not the easiest thing to work with when a whole cast are working to a script and someone decides to throw it out. I also heard that she had them by the balls down at TV centre and warned that if they ever wrote her out she'd spill all the beans about back stage shinanigans. Then there was the whole Kathleen Hutchinson farce, when a new producer was brought in she was incredibly vocal in her dislike for her and within 6 months she was gone.
The characer had become incredibly unlikeable, though perhaps as a reaction to everything she's been through she became such a tough old broad. It could be said she was one of the most realistic characters on the show, she was never cartoonish and she reminded me of a lot of old women who are bitter and guarded because of so much hurt.
I suppose in a way it'll be the end of the true miserable days of EE because she really represents that era, Dot moved on but she never did. Perhaps it'll be sunshine and lollypops from now on.
Eitherway, we salute you Mrs Fowler, and your Betty.
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Post by coxy1979 on Jul 11, 2006 11:50:21 GMT
About bloody time.
She'll die at Xmas though surely.
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Post by Lucinda on Jul 11, 2006 13:23:31 GMT
Jolly good stuff! I have not been a regular Eastenders viewer for a number of years, mainly because it's so goddamn depressing and boring, and Pauline Fowler is both of those things, so perhaps it'll all pick up a bit. Well, I don't actually believe that, but it'll probably improve slightly. As someone said before me, she really served no purpose other than to bitch and moan about everyone and to just generally be miserable.
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Post by ironical on Jul 11, 2006 13:31:21 GMT
I'd say she's going to do a Sharon and leave on Christmas day, only to return around April with bigger hair and more pronounced eyebrows. We'll then get lines like "who's been a naughty Betty..." etc.
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Post by xenomaniac on Jul 11, 2006 13:41:20 GMT
I don't really like Pauline Fowler. However, like Jem said there are some characters in soaps that don't actually do or add anything to the programme but they just belong there. And Pauline is one of them
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Post by queenmurphy on Jul 11, 2006 13:54:24 GMT
I read that she used to constantly change her script to suit herself. When Pauline gave a toast during Sonia and Martin's wedding, Wendy decided she didn't like any of it and changed several minutes of dialogue. Not the easiest thing to work with when a whole cast are working to a script and someone decides to throw it out. I also heard that she had them by the balls down at TV centre and warned that if they ever wrote her out she'd spill all the beans about back stage shinanigans. Then there was the whole Kathleen Hutchinson farce, when a new producer was brought in she was incredibly vocal in her dislike for her and within 6 months she was gone. /quote] i've met the miserable old hag in real life when i did some work experience in The EastEnders Press Office a couple of years ago. and she is just as foul faced and bitter as her character! its true that everyone that works at the Beeb tip-toe around her and avoid upsetting her at all costs! no doubt they'll be breathing a huge sigh of relief! as for her character, i think they've gone as far as they can with her, which is why she's probably bowwing out. It said in the press that's she going to have a typical eastenders dramatic exit. lets just hope Betty is spared.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Jul 11, 2006 16:57:25 GMT
Yes, I have heard from multiple sources that Wendy Richard basically = Pauline Fowler. Remember the black face is Wendy's choice, not Pauline's. Hopefully she dies. Wendy that is.
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Post by MoondialSlater on Jul 11, 2006 22:38:02 GMT
Pauline won't leave, she'll just quietly cease to exist and no-one will notice. Well if Buffy has taught me anything she'll just be ignored so much she'll turn invisible and go on a manic vendetta against the pretty girls. Which given that she's in Eastenders shouldn't take long.
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Post by [james] on Jul 12, 2006 7:37:42 GMT
Well if Buffy has taught me anything... I actually use that phrase on a semi-regular basis.
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Post by jetsetwilly on Jul 12, 2006 10:01:42 GMT
With Martin going, she really would have had no purpose whatsoever. The producers probably realised this, which is why Ray Brooks was written in; but knowing the old cow she no doubt took an instant dislike to him and decided she wouldn't waste her time hanging around.
I've also heard all the rumours about her being a vile hag, who considers herself Queen of EE. Didn't Jack Ryder make all sorts of allegations about her letting her dog shit all over the place? Apparently her nose was put severely out of joint by the arrival of Barbara Windsor; not surprising when you look at Carry On Girls, where Wendy Richard is just a dolly bird and Babs is a featured star. She was probably worried that the same thing would happen in Albert Square and, lo! it did. I think you could probably trace Pauline's descent into a sour-faced harridan to that point. Of course the fact that Barbara Windsor, while no Glenda Jackson, could outact Wendy Richard without breaking into a sweat didn't help.
She's probably going to just go and live with Michelle in Florida, like the rest of Walford. How big is Michelle's house?
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Post by Bungle on Jul 12, 2006 11:44:41 GMT
Yes, there were all those problems when the Queen came to visit the set a few years back because Windsor had been chosen to show her around, while Richard felt that it should be her. I think one of them ended up with Prince Philip in the end - Richard, I think.
As far as I can remember, the only time Richard is mentioned in Babs' autobiography (choice phrase: 'and so I found myself having yet another abortion' - honestly, her insides must be screwed) is when she mentions the unfortunate coincidence that she had to do Peggy's breast cancer storyline at the same time as Richard was off because she had it for real. I could be really mean about 'taking rivalry to extremes' there, but I won't. In fact, the only cast member that I remember Babs bitching about at all is Daniella Westbrook, and that's only because she insisted on calling Babs 'mum' off set.
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Post by Steven on Jul 12, 2006 12:50:03 GMT
Well if Buffy has taught me anything... I actually use that phrase on a semi-regular basis. WWBD?
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