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Post by Rad on Oct 18, 2006 21:56:27 GMT
Was thinking about this during a bout of insomnia last night... It was sparked by the thoughts of Hollyoaks ghosts and how all of Mandy's family are dead. And then I remembered that other soap characters were just as tragic. So, these are my contenders (yeah, OK, I don't have the foggiest about Emmerdale and I vaguely remember tragedy in Home and Away when I watched it in the era of Bobby and Pippa but there's probably been others more tragic since)
In the Hollyoaks corner... Mandy. She IS the Chester angel of death. Dead evil rapist abuser father. Suicided dead evil violent psycho brother who used to be nice. Tragically dead mother. Rape victim (multiple). Boyfriend who was also a rape victim. Worst character ever Ruth Osborne as a sister-in-law type for a while. Running away for months. Prostitution? I may have made that up. Being forced by scriptwriters to marry Tony (as if). Dead baby. Not good for someone who's what? 23?
In the Neighbours corner... Harold. ALmost went for deap departed Daphne, but let's face it, Harold is THEIR angel of death. 2 dead wives. Dead daughter. Dead son. Dead daughter in law. Dead granddaughter. Jumped the shark granddaughter who used to be ace and no longer is. Timmins-sired (or JP-sired) future grandchild. And he even managed to die himself.
In a similar vein, for Casualty... Josh. OK, most people in Casualty have a tragic existence, but it was the light switch that blew up his whole family that started the soap trend for family culling. Ensuing drinking/gambling/something problem. Failed second marriage. I don't watch Casualty these days but I gather his life hasn't been a barrell of laughs recently, either.
I haven't seen the Bill for ages. I stopped watching when they killed off their best character. Poor old Viv.
Not being a Corrie fan, even I had a bit of a lump in my throat when I readabout Fred's demise. Almost marrying a scarily-decrepid looking Susie Blake. Lusting after Ms Popov for years to discover she loved him too when it was too late - and then popping his clogs. AND being related to Ashley. Poor bloke.
Holby's Kath gets my vote because she was so lovely and then she had to kill her husband/boyfriend (sob). Much more tragic than Lisa Faulkner being killed (but not by Sheridan Smith, her stalker, if I remember that episode rightly). Angela Griffin's character getting stabbed was sort of sad. But not really all that much. She was a bit annoying.
EE was a tough competition. Ben and Courtney were early contenders. Barry and Roy Evans, too. Michelle Fowler for having the indignity of Pauline as a mum, Dirty Den and Grant Mitchell as her babyfathers and Lofty as a husband was an also-ran. But really, it has to be the Beale kids. Multiple face and body transplants. Dead adulterous mum. Dead adulterous stepmum. Evil absent stepbrother. Being kidnapped multiple times, including by the Mitchell brothers. A variety of stepmums who always leave. And Ian Beale for a dad. What more tragedy could you want?
Of course, you can all disagree...
My vote is split between Harry, Mandy and Josh at the mo, but I think Harold may clinch it for not only having everyone he loves die, but dying himself. And having to watch Sky go crap.
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Post by schmindie on Oct 18, 2006 22:10:02 GMT
Harold and Spawn of Beale for me.
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Post by xenomaniac on Oct 18, 2006 22:12:17 GMT
Mandy without a doubt. She taught us that if you have nice hair and clothes, you can pull through just about anything.
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Post by Rooneyboy on Oct 19, 2006 6:27:53 GMT
Simply for having Ian Beale for a dad gives my vote to the Beale kids!
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Post by melody on Oct 19, 2006 8:48:14 GMT
I think I'll have to vote for Josh. I've not seen what's happened to him in the past 5 years but I remeber the episode where his family died and he almost had one kid survive, but then she died. My housemate came home to find me and my mate in a state of shock and was really worried something awful had happened and we were quite embarrassed to admit it was just casualty. Mind you, poor Mandy.
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Post by groopie on Oct 19, 2006 9:23:36 GMT
I would say Josh, except for the fact that Casualty is NOT and will never be a soap. He's had a quiet time of late, the odd suspension and driving around on his scooter / having blokey heart to hearts with Charlie is about all he gets to do these days.
Beale kids for me then.
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Post by Rad on Oct 19, 2006 12:08:30 GMT
Oh come on, Casualty so IS a soap these days. It's never off!
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Post by smellslikesomeghost on Oct 19, 2006 13:35:07 GMT
I think Harold from that list. I would however like to mention Sally from Home and Away. She was orphaned as a tiny tot when her parents were killed in a fire, then her step dad died, then so did the next one too. She had Cancer but beat it, and married Flynn. They tried for a baby, but heartbreakingly couldn't have one so used Leah as a surrogate. Flynn then died of Cancer. In between times she has been stalked by a crazy student, stalked by a crazy psycho. She has been held hostage several times. She has escaped from burning buildings at least 3 times. Her best friends always leave the bay. When one returned, yup, she died. There's so much more but that's just off the top of my head random memories. I would like to nominate her as "youngest most tragic" if that's ok?
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Post by Adrian on Oct 19, 2006 13:52:49 GMT
Sally has recurring OCD!
Happily though, her hair has improved with every passing tragedy. She's clearly been taking lessons from Mandy.
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Post by Nick on Oct 19, 2006 14:03:54 GMT
She cried a lot when her breasts developed, too. Is that normal for girls?
(The crying, I mean.)
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Post by thelovelykate on Oct 19, 2006 15:51:06 GMT
Sally lost her virginity to Heath Ledger which must surely compensate for some (if not all) of the tragedies.
I'd like to nominate Kathy Beale/Mitchell from Eastenders. Raped as a teenage which results in sprog which has to be given up. Sprog returns as an all grown up smack addict and then ODs to death. Marries Pete and produces Ian (possibly the greatest tragedy). Gets raped AGAIN by evil James Wilmott-Brown(was that his name?). Marries Phil who cheats on her with Sharon, becomes an alcoholic and starts knocking her about. Finally escapes to South Africa (the country with the highest number of road accidents and rapes evry year) and then dies. Other horrible things probably happened to her but I can't remember them all!
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Post by Rad on Oct 19, 2006 17:03:21 GMT
Sally is annoying and crap though, so it's hard to have sympathy.
Kathy Beale is a worthy contender, but I think Ben and Ian's kids have suffered more.
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Post by smellslikesomeghost on Oct 19, 2006 17:37:42 GMT
Sally is annoying and crap though, so it's hard to have sympathy. G-a-s-p! How can you say that about her. She's fabulous. And look at all those poor ickle troubled teens she now looks after, she's a mini Pippa (a Pipette!) Her hair is ace, her figure is lush, and she gets prettier every year. |
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Post by Rad on Oct 19, 2006 20:15:37 GMT
I haven;t seen it since about 1994. She was crap then.
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Post by toby3000 on Oct 20, 2006 0:15:59 GMT
Steph Scully always struck me as pretty tragic,but I think this is mainly becasue she once said "I guess I've used up all my luck"
ANYWAY;
Her first boyfriend faked his death, she was set up for armed robbery by her next, her first wedding ended because the groom was shagging her sister, she was in love with her best friends husband, she had a bike crash, she got cancer TWICE, she couldn't get pregnant, tried to adopt unsuccessfully, most of her family can't be fucked to attend any events in her life, she was found guilty of killing her grandfather, her husband had her commited
Worst of all, she is a HOYLAND! She has to have sex with MAX! and put up with boyd and summer for long periods of time.
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Post by Nicholas on Oct 20, 2006 7:47:59 GMT
Why, Bet Lynch, of course. More tragedy in her little finger than the above-lot put together! (Younger viewers may care to refer to Corrie.net for background info).
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Post by jem on Oct 20, 2006 9:15:15 GMT
For me it has to be Harold, the whole Family dying and for putting up with Skye. I loved it when he said to her do you think I ever planned to see my wife and children, grandchildren and daughter in law die to show her how stupid she was being.
Also added into the mix should be when he had a stroke and became evil Harold (genius) and who knows what happened while he lived as Ted.
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Post by georgie on Oct 20, 2006 9:59:39 GMT
I was wondering why Hazza was listed but remembered about David, Lil and Serena and of course Madge going blind and dying, Kerry being shot, etc. But he always manages to keep a cheery disposition, most of the time so my vote goes to Mandy! I didnt even watch Hollyoaks until 12 months ago but even I know of her tales of woe
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Post by georgie on Oct 20, 2006 10:00:18 GMT
I think Harold from that list. I would however like to mention Sally from Home and Away. She was orphaned as a tiny tot when her parents were killed in a fire, then her step dad died, then so did the next one too. She had Cancer but beat it, and married Flynn. They tried for a baby, but heartbreakingly couldn't have one so used Leah as a surrogate. Flynn then died of Cancer. In between times she has been stalked by a crazy student, stalked by a crazy psycho. She has been held hostage several times. She has escaped from burning buildings at least 3 times. Her best friends always leave the bay. When one returned, yup, she died. There's so much more but that's just off the top of my head random memories. I would like to nominate her as "youngest most tragic" if that's ok? She had cancer?! |
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Post by thelovelykate on Oct 20, 2006 12:18:33 GMT
Yes, that's why she wasn't able to have babies with Doctor Flynn.
While she was flitting around the hospital the other day I noticed that Sally really is very thin nowadays. Her head is almost too big for her body. Those kids of hers need to get down the diner and buy her some cake. Curiously, why in a town with a good population of domestic goddesses like Sally and Beth, does no one make their own cake?
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Post by georgie on Oct 20, 2006 12:35:32 GMT
Yes, that's why she wasn't able to have babies with Doctor Flynn. Ah, I skipped a few years, you see. |
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Post by mattclat on Oct 20, 2006 15:07:36 GMT
Agree with a lot of these...Mandy being the main one for me I think...
But what about Corrie's SARAH LOUISE PLATT! Pregnant at 12, baby kidnapped from hospital by Kevin Webster's tragic girlfriend who gave it back then ran under a bus, changed her baby's name from Britney to Bethany, father of baby died and grandma then abducted baby, second baby with gay boyfriend died, another boyfriend taken to court for stealing fish, fish stealing boyfriend also had unfortunate name of Scooter, driven into canal by physcho serial killer stepdad2, stepdad1 kept folding his arms and sleeping with young nurses then moved away, stedad1 also slept with her best friend who then murderd her own dad, real dad taken to court for rape (or was that just the guy who played him? what happened to her real dad), older brother is camp as tits Nick, younger brother is spawn of satan David, fiance left her at alter, fiance tried it on with mother when fixing her radiator (before he was fiance, he was brother of gay boyfriend at that point), mother is Gail chinless Platt, said mother wears a hideous blue dressing gown which she wore when beating up mother of gay boyfriend and soon to be fiance in the middle of the street, she works at a salon having to wash the hair of the likes of Rita, Betty, Emily, Cilla, Blanche, Deidre...her grandmother is the most hated woman on the street at the moment..............NEED I GO ON?
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Post by starchy on Oct 20, 2006 15:57:57 GMT
What about Sharon from EE. Adopted by Den and Angie. Angie, drunken harpy, Den, nutter who clearly has the hots for you. Had sex on more than one occasion with both Mitchell brothers. Close friends included Mark, Ian and Pauline. Best friend Shell shags bad dad Den and has his baby. Has Vicky for a sister. Husband dies in fire. Den is murdered not once but twice, meaning Sharon has to attend his funeral twice. Dennis, love of her life, is murdered in front of her, while she is pregnant, as they are leaving to start a new life together.
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Post by SweatShop on Oct 20, 2006 18:28:25 GMT
The thing though about Sarah Lou though is that no matter how many bad things happen to her, you still couldn't give a fuck.
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Post by groopie on Oct 21, 2006 1:00:34 GMT
Ooh, as of today, Ruby's entire family has died and her gold digging boyfriend is possibly stealing her millions. Actually, why the fuck was she living on the square anyway? I live in a shithole in East London and I don't care how close my friends / work were I would absolutetly movr given the chance.
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