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Post by QuincyMD on Aug 6, 2004 11:02:24 GMT
As someone who spotted the twist in The Sixth Sense within the first five minutes I'd just like to start a thread that says that the twist in The Village I'd guessed before the movie started and I'd have been surprised if that had not been the twist.
Out August 20th in the UK.
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Post by elmsyrup on Aug 6, 2004 15:33:06 GMT
What film? Never heard of it.
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Post by QuincyMD on Aug 6, 2004 15:40:55 GMT
The new film from the creator of The Sixth Sense and Signs, just out in the States and being word of mouth means it is apparently set to lose 60% of it's B.O. this week.
It's another film they have hyped with "surprising twists" but this time the surprise is it isn't a sursprise.
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Post by Elly on Aug 7, 2004 14:30:42 GMT
Hmm. This film was below my radar until I found out that the lovely Michael Pitt was in it. Now I'm rather excited.
I've liked all of M Night Shyamalananawhatsits films, even the ones that everyone else said were rubbish ie. Signs, Unbreakable. I like the way all of his films have been character-driven. He gets tremendous performances out of the actors.
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Post by milkmonitor on Aug 7, 2004 23:39:40 GMT
The Sixth Sense, despite all the people who like to say they knew about the twist before the dinosaurs were invented, was brilliant. A genuinely creepy film without resorting to cheap 'HAHA! GOTCHA! YOU'RE COVERED IN BLOOD! LOOK AT ME AREN'T I A SCARY KILLER!!!' so-called 'horror', Bruce Willis and Haley 'girls name' Joel Osment were fantastic. Unbreakable wasn't that bad, but Signs was an overrated pile of toss. I don't know if I want to see The Village though...it's way down on my List Of Films I Really Badly Need To See list.
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Post by Ezzie on Aug 8, 2004 22:19:28 GMT
Well, I got scared by a 12 once, so I will shit myself. Me and TK are gonna see it cos Joaquin is in it.
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Post by si on Aug 19, 2004 9:53:29 GMT
Oh no, I'm one of those people who's going to claim to have guessed the twist as soon as we glimpsed Those Who We Do Not Speak Of. My friend still didn't get it even after the reveal.
Even though M Night Shyamalan has this rep for being a twist-master, isn't it only in The Sixth Sense that this happened? The Village has more in common with Signs (that is, being a gentle, creepy thriller) than anything with a whole turn-it-on-it's-head twist. The twist's kinda there even in the very beginning and the reveal is slow in coming, but maybe M Night knows now that he can't do a Mousetrap and ask his audiences not to tell others who the killer is and would rather let the audience slowly work it out for themselves?
I think 'gentle' might be the problem with it for audiences. All the same, you should believe the hype and go along to see it, despite what arsey critics complain. It was a solid, old fashioned suspense which made everyone in the cinema jump at least once, and Ron Howard's daughter was fantastic -- as are all sighted actress who play blind convincingly.
Go see, it isn't the disappointment you've been warned about.
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Post by si on Aug 19, 2004 9:59:06 GMT
As someone who spotted the twist in The Sixth Sense within the first five minutes I'd just like to start a thread that says that the twist in The Village I'd guessed before the movie started and I'd have been surprised if that had not been the twist. Out August 20th in the UK. How did you guess the twist? It was a surprise for me, because the trailers mention nothing to do with the twist at all -- I thought they worked well in piquing my interest without giving any indication of Those Who We Do Not Speak Of's origins. For me, it was when we first saw TWWDNSO, because their outfits were blatantly Jim Henson Workshop style costumes (although when Adrien Brody was dressed as one and made a run for Ivy, that freaked me out) and also the meaningful looks at the locked boxes ("this village is full of secrets". I'm not saying you didn't guess, I'm just wondering how you did!
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Post by klee on Aug 19, 2004 10:30:33 GMT
I thought Signs was great. It struck me as being Independence Day as it would have been written by Checkhov. I *hearted* the way it took the idea of an alien invasion and examined it on a micro rather than a macro scale (which, let's face it, has been done to death).
This was very much the same thing that made me like Shaun of the Dead so much. The way that it implied, when the alternative survivors group (Fran from Black Books, Jessica Stevenson etc) bumped into the main characters that the business of saving the world was going on somewhere else.
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Post by mikemk on Aug 19, 2004 10:59:45 GMT
Signs took me by surprise - it reminded me of Close Encounters in the way it dealt with individuals' reaction to a real alien threat. The scenes in the cellar are superb, and the various conversations are thought-provoking and believable - especially the impact on people's religious beliefs following major, traumatic events.
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Post by ste on Aug 19, 2004 11:29:00 GMT
Unbreakable was one of the worst films I've ever seen.
"They called me Mr Glass," indeed.
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Post by Storm on Aug 19, 2004 11:54:05 GMT
Unbreakable was one of the worst films I've ever seen. "They called me Mr Glass," indeed. Seconded. My mum says 'The Village' is rubbish. Vin Diesel is her favourite actor though, so what does she know.
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Post by QuincyMD on Aug 19, 2004 15:39:00 GMT
I got the twist from when I heard the premise.
It's an obvious thing to do based on the premise of the film. It was always either going to be the ending they went for or that they were really in some giant Alien zoo.
It's the same that whilst watching The Sixth Sense I guessed the twist the moment Bruce was shot as it reminded me so much of the film The Survivor with Robert Powell and Joseph Cotton.
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Post by Mike on Aug 19, 2004 17:52:10 GMT
Unbreakable was one of the worst films I've ever seen. "They called me Mr Glass," indeed. Thirded. I was actually horrified by the ending. One review compared it to being taken out to an expensive restaurant, fed an exquisite starter and main course, then having a bowl of Angel Delight shoved in your face and being thrown out into the street. I couldn't have put it better myself. As for Signs, see above. Great idea, piss-poor execution. Yet I'm still curious to see The Village.
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Post by James & The Jaunty Nyasu Vibes on Aug 19, 2004 21:38:51 GMT
As I was sitting through Signs I was extremely happy that someone had made the great "night of the living dead" of alien invasion movies. It got to the light being smashed in the cellar and I was sure it was a classic.
But the ending. Oh dear fucking GOD the ending. The logic behind the water thing (lets see, 75% of the Earth, oh yeah...) was so awful that it ruined the rest of the film for me. If it'd ended in the cellar, with them all dying, it would have been brilliant.
I particularly loved the first glimpse of the Alien on TV, that was extremely freaky.
Unbreakable was a good idea, but deathly dull. Sixth Sense was brilliant, but didnt grab me.
I may go to see The village just to see if it's as awful as I think it is.
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Post by audrey notwhatsheusedtobe on Aug 20, 2004 9:08:56 GMT
On the plus side, at least Signs taught us that if aliens do come after you, they can easily be baffled by the concept of DOORKNOBS despite being clever enough to have worked out how to travel across the universe.
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Post by pauliepoos on Aug 21, 2004 20:58:14 GMT
I wasn't that impressed by The Village, thinking that the dialogue was pretty ropey for the 19th century. Like the references to the woman who didn't live past her 23rd birthday because she was dumped in an alley. Did they have alleys back then?
It wasn't as disappointing as I thought though. Would have been interesting to see what Kirsten Dunst had done with the role though.
And William Hurt is still beautiful.
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Post by elmsyrup on Aug 21, 2004 21:01:18 GMT
I wasn't that impressed by The Village, thinking that the dialogue was pretty ropey for the 19th century. Like the references to the woman who didn't live past her 23rd birthday because she was dumped in an alley. Did they have alleys back then? Um, yeah. They had roads and streets, didn't they?
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Post by Ezzie on Aug 22, 2004 18:45:26 GMT
I wasn't that impressed by The Village, thinking that the dialogue was pretty ropey for the 19th century. Like the references to the woman who didn't live past her 23rd birthday because she was dumped in an alley. Did they have alleys back then? Yes but they weren't really in the 19th century were they? They are supposed to be ordinary people who can only improvise so far. So that was fair enough. I did spot a few of the twists but not all of them, and even so, there were some really good spooky moments. Ok, maybe not the best film in the world, but pretty good. And Joaquin Phoenix is a god.
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Post by Elly on Aug 22, 2004 22:33:51 GMT
I really really loved it, but I knew I would. I thought the twist made perfect sense, and just added more layers, rather than being there for the sole purpose to shock. The acting was superb, there were some genuinely scary moments (although people trying to label this as horror are really misguided) and it was incredibly beautiful to look at.
The only thing that annoyed me was Joaquin Phoenix, Adrien Brody and Michael Pitt all had much smaller roles than I was expecting. I did like Bryce Dallas Howard, but it took me by surprise that the story was so centered on her character.
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Post by Ezzie on Aug 23, 2004 9:15:28 GMT
Yeah, especially as Joaquin's name was the first name credited at the start and it started off being about him. Oh well. I still got to see him. Ahhh, Joaquin.....
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Aug 23, 2004 10:25:44 GMT
I really wanna this film now. I'm gonna go on Wednesday, I'm intrigued by this twist, although I already might have an idea what it is.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Aug 25, 2004 17:17:01 GMT
I saw it. I sort of worked out the twist quite early on. And as soon as you see "those who we do not speak of" it's pretty obvious. And they spoke about those who we do not speak of an awefull lot.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Aug 25, 2004 17:18:11 GMT
I wasn't that impressed by The Village, thinking that the dialogue was pretty ropey for the 19th century. Like the references to the woman who didn't live past her 23rd birthday because she was dumped in an alley. Did they have alleys back then? It wasn't as disappointing as I thought though. Would have been interesting to see what Kirsten Dunst had done with the role though. And William Hurt is still beautiful. Did you actually see the end?
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Post by pauliepoos on Aug 25, 2004 18:45:17 GMT
Did you actually see the end? I did indeed.
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