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Post by Ezzie on Aug 25, 2004 18:59:38 GMT
Um...aren't alleys just the gap between buildings? So surely they've been around a long time...
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Aug 26, 2004 11:05:33 GMT
The alley was a hint at the twist methinks.
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Post by pauliepoos on Aug 26, 2004 17:18:34 GMT
The alley was a hint at the twist methinks. Yes - that's what I was trying to get at. The dialogue seemed out of place at times with more modern references.
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Post by Cherubic on Aug 26, 2004 18:35:16 GMT
I just went to see The Village this afternoon, and really liked it up until the end, when the much talked about final twist sent a wrecking ball through the subtle and stylish edifice it had been building towards. Just to be safe, I'll tell you I'm going to give it away.
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What the hell was the ending all about? I know the guy was rich, but the ability to get the government to divert planes from his mad-cap secret theme park seems a little far fetched. How did they manage to retrain themselves to speak like the cast of the crucible? Why did none of the other older people who weren't elders know that it was all fake, and if they did why were the elders so important? How come nobody remembered any of their New York childhoods? Lucius must have been alive when his father was killed, so why didn't he remember it. Surely a group of people powerful enough to have planes diverted could have got a good supply of anti-biotics? Unless they decided that modern science was what caused evil in the world, but this was never stated.
I can't accept it as an allegorical tale either. What was the message? We shouldn't lock ourselves away or we should? That fear is a just or unjust way of controlling a society. It built itself to this moment of realisation and absoloutely nothing happened.
I liked it, but with such a weak ending that pointed out the inconsistencies which had come before it I can't call it a good film by any means. I wonder perhaps if the ambiguity was intentional; but if this was the case it wasn't made very well. No-body questioned or changed anything. It was either failed horror, or failed allegory.
Disappointment is a terrible thing.
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Post by si on Aug 27, 2004 8:41:50 GMT
What the hell was the ending all about? I know the guy was rich, but the ability to get the government to divert planes from his mad-cap secret theme park seems a little far fetched. How did they manage to retrain themselves to speak like the cast of the crucible? Why did none of the other older people who weren't elders know that it was all fake, and if they did why were the elders so important? How come nobody remembered any of their New York childhoods? Lucius must have been alive when his father was killed, so why didn't he remember it. Surely a group of people powerful enough to have planes diverted could have got a good supply of anti-biotics? Unless they decided that modern science was what caused evil in the world, but this was never stated. In the picture they looked at, Sigourney was holding a baby. I assume it was taken just before they left for The Village, so Lucius wouldn't really remember his father. The only thing I can think of is that the elders were in control as they were the founders, but all the other older villagers did know but weren't in charge? I agree that the ending is silly, but then it's just a film to pass the time, not an Oscar grabber. It reminded me of an eloborate episode of Star Trek. Silly but entertaining.
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Post by FeelsLikeKellyCrabtree on Aug 27, 2004 9:51:38 GMT
At the end, in the office, the man at the desk was reading a newspaper which mentioned the death of a child, was this connected to the child that they buried at the beginning of the film and if so why would it have made it to the newspaper? How would people outside have known about it?
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Post by pauliepoos on Aug 27, 2004 13:29:06 GMT
At the end, in the office, the man at the desk was reading a newspaper which mentioned the death of a child, was this connected to the child that they buried at the beginning of the film and if so why would it have made it to the newspaper? How would people outside have known about it? There were lots of horrible stories in the newspaper the man in the office was reading. I think the point that was made was that all the people who left the city and went to the Village had been victims of horrible crimes and that in the Village they had found safety and comfort. The newspaper served as a reminder that however barmy or do-lally they might have been, the world had not become a nicer place.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Aug 27, 2004 14:43:20 GMT
Why did they dress up in old clothes and speak all paganey? And what was all that "I can see your colour" about?
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Post by Ezzie on Aug 27, 2004 16:20:30 GMT
I think the "I cans ee your coliur" was for when you still thought the mosters were real- we were supposed to assume his colour was red so that's why his entering the forest had made the creatures mad.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Aug 27, 2004 16:26:39 GMT
I think the "I cans ee your coliur" was for when you still thought the mosters were real- we were supposed to assume his colour was red so that's why his entering the forest had made the creatures mad. But really tho, who would send a blind girl into a forest. And a forest with a massive hole in the group. And when she got to the secret road, who did she know which way to go? In reality, she would have got lost and died of dehydration. I just realised tho, she can't see can she, so she doesn't see the car, and the wall and everything. Ome of the elders could have gone, maybe Sigourney Weaver. She wasn't good enough in it. I thought the creature that attacked the blind girl in the forest was her at first. I think it would have been better if they didn't tell us that it was modern day until after she climbed over the wall, and you saw the car. That was make a bigger impact than seeing the photo from the box.
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Post by Ezzie on Aug 27, 2004 18:30:59 GMT
Yeah that would have been good. I think the I can see your colour was also because at first the film seemed to be about Lucius, and then suddenly it was about her-it was purposely misleading I think.
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Post by Rabbit on Sept 14, 2004 11:21:50 GMT
Why did the made up creatures looke like Mrs Wiggiewinkles is a better question to ask
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