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Post by ladytrol on Feb 28, 2005 20:04:31 GMT
After twenty-nine years on this planet I've only just now seen this: My life is now better.
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Post by pauliepoos on Feb 28, 2005 20:42:35 GMT
Did you appreciate the Let Your Head Go video in a more profound way now?
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Post by ladytrol on Feb 28, 2005 21:05:02 GMT
I have never seen it. Sad face. Weren't there two versions? I'll see what eMule comes up with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2005 15:00:26 GMT
NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!
I really found myself rooting for Joan Crawford. Beat that whiny child into submission.
I am also amused by the fact that - apparently - the film companies realised how awful it was and tried to promote it with deliberately "so bad it's good" angle, including the tag line, "The mother of them all..."
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Post by klee on Mar 1, 2005 15:16:32 GMT
"I buy you beautiful things and what do you do . . .!?"
" Dirty, dirty. It's all dirty!!!!!"[/i] Faye Dunaway is marvellous in this. Her performance should be in the OED under the entry for chewing the sceneryThe book's just as high-larious. Especially the bits where Christina betrays her tacit hatred for the degenerate gays Joan hung around with.#nosmileys
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Post by Gordon on Mar 1, 2005 15:50:18 GMT
I was watching this yesterday! The actress who played adult Christina actually pleyed the Mother of Michael Alig in Party Monster. However, it is Dunnaway who runs away with this picture. Crawford had actually said, ironically, that of all the new actresses, it was Dunnaway who had what it took to really make it.
It is also interesting about the so-bad-it-is-good prmotion because audiences were also given the chance to take in their own wire hangers for that very special highlight. For a film that has did so well over time it is a crime that there were no special features of substance on the D.V.D.
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Post by ladytrol on Mar 1, 2005 16:44:39 GMT
I don't think they could film a snug little retrospect with Faye Dunaway reminiscing on the role, as apparently she regrets ever doing this movie. The fool.
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Post by FWWM on Mar 1, 2005 20:31:39 GMT
I don't think they could film a snug little retrospect with Faye Dunaway reminiscing on the role, as apparently she regrets ever doing this movie. The fool. It's not surprising really, it pretty much wrecked her career. But it really is the most amazingly shitty piece of film making ever made - so gloriously camp and histrionic, and it completely and utterly misses what it set out to do. There are so many quotable lines in it, apparently some ardent fans have memorised the entire script. I love the fact that all the best lines are things that Joan Crawford actually said. I too sympathised more with Joan - the adult Christina wasn't that bad, but the child actor was a surly little bitch, she deserved a good hiding after the way she acted during the rare meat scene. My favourite part is the bit where she breaks up with Greg. I might watch this again tonight, actually.
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Post by trollte on Mar 2, 2005 13:16:16 GMT
"No... wire... hangers. What's wire hangers doing in this closet when I told you: no wire hangers EVER? I work and work 'till I'm half-dead, and I hear people saying, "She's getting old." And what do I get? A daughter... who cares as much about the beautiful dresses I give her... as she cares about me. What's wire hangers doing in this closet? Answer me. I buy you beautiful dresses, and you treat them like they were some dishrag. You do. Three hundred dollar dress on a wire hanger. We'll see how many you've got if they're hidden somewhere. We'll see... we'll see. Get out of that bed. All of this is coming out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. You've got any more? We're gonna see how many wire hangers you've got in your closet. Wire hangers, why? Why? Christina, get out of that bed. Get out of that bed. You live in the most beautiful house in Brentwood and you don't care if your clothes are stretched out from wire hangers. And your room looks like some two-dollar-a-week furnished room in some two-bit back street town in Okalahoma. Get up. Get up. Clean up this mess!" I heart this film. You must read this too: Bette Davis to Lana Turner: "Guess who just got on the train? That cocksucker Joan Crawford"
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Post by si on Mar 5, 2005 9:24:05 GMT
I've never seen the film (however, it's just arrived through the post from online dvd rental) but the Shaun Considine book is fantastic. Not least because of the quotable lines, such as the classic mentioned above, but for the bitchy one-up-woman-ship and bizarre situations they both got into.
I loved the whole episode where Bette almost got hit by a falling stage light and was looking up into the flys to see if Joan was up there. The writer's all But Joan Crawford was on the other side of the country...
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Post by Smudge on Mar 5, 2005 13:16:54 GMT
I love Mommie Dearest. I wish I knew Joan Crawford...what a fucking loony!
"BRING ME THE AXE!!"
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Post by si on Mar 8, 2005 8:05:19 GMT
I watched it and was a bit underwhealmed, mostly cause I unashamedly love JC and I know that Christina must've made a lot of that up.
My favourite part was when the Pepsi directors tried to get rid of her.
Don't fuck with me fellas.
I thought she was going to do an Oren Ishii with her axe.
I was also disappointed that there wasn't any Bette action. I know it was about her relationship with Christina, but they surely missed a trick by not having Franchot in there at all, or any of her later horror movies.
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Post by pauliepoos on Jan 27, 2007 15:06:55 GMT
There is a new generation of fans of the movie:
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Post by Gordon on Jan 31, 2007 10:03:46 GMT
Has anyone else caught some of the unnecessary bad press she seems to be getting from the locals where she is filming in Wales? The most incompetent journalist I have ever came across, Polly Dunbar or whatever gets these woefully inept double page spreads on famous people who have died or in the midst of controversy - so she gets a very easy challenge of writing half-arsed observations. So anyway, Dunnaway is haggered and won't drink a pint in the local pub - that is seriously meant to be her fall from grace. Nevermind the fact that she is in costume and, in a rare move, not chasing her star 'queen of melodrama' image. I would like to remind people like this writer to watch Faye's guest role in CSI - that was a corker for ridiculous camp glamor (her wardrobe made me think she was an aged Cher from Clueless gone wrong).
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Post by latoyajunkie on Feb 6, 2007 14:37:52 GMT
I have that book, it's a great read!
The new 'Hollywood Royalty Edition' of Mommie is great too, with some great biographical featurettes of Bette & Joan.
The best bits are the wire hangers and Christina getting expelled and the fight!
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