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DS9
Oct 14, 2007 19:24:12 GMT
Post by Feral on Oct 14, 2007 19:24:12 GMT
A long shot, this one, I guess – probably not very lowculture-ish... But was anyone else a fan of this?
I picked up a couple of the box sets of this recently, and its remided me just how great it was when it was at its best. Garak the Cardassian was such a classic character.
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DS9
Oct 14, 2007 22:10:46 GMT
Post by Rad on Oct 14, 2007 22:10:46 GMT
I have seen the first series, the last one and bits inbetween, but my friends have the box-sets, so borrowing will ensue. I was into TNG and Voyager so picked bits of DS9 up along the way, but I think three at once was a bit much for me at the time.
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DS9
Oct 14, 2007 22:57:46 GMT
Post by Joel on Oct 14, 2007 22:57:46 GMT
I'm getting all the box sets. I'm on season 4 right now.
I spent ages telling my flatmate how great it was, and he didn't believe me. So I made him watch and now he's all 'I hate you! It's so good! I want to watch it!'
Pisses all over other Star Treks from a great height, to my mind. And yes, Garak was beyond awesome.
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DS9
Oct 14, 2007 23:24:31 GMT
Post by Rad on Oct 14, 2007 23:24:31 GMT
I miss Star Trek.
Prequels don't count. I want to know what happens after Voy/DS9 (what a last episode)/Nemesis.
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DS9
Oct 15, 2007 2:42:39 GMT
Post by Feral on Oct 15, 2007 2:42:39 GMT
I'm getting all the box sets. I'm on season 4 right now. Season 4 is where the war kicks off properly, right? And Sisko gets the badass haircut. That was when DS9 stopped being just great, and started being fucking immense. I'm only at Season 2 at the moment, so its getting steadily better. Season 1 is a bit dodgy in places. But now everthing is settling down. I'd forgotten just much of a bitch Vedek / Kai Winn actually was. There was a period around the last few series of DS9 when Star Trek was just fantastic. First Contact is the only really great Trek movie, and its from around then too. I miss the goodness.
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DS9
Oct 15, 2007 8:35:20 GMT
Post by QuincyMD on Oct 15, 2007 8:35:20 GMT
Season 1 is currently on Virgin1 at 8pm weeknights.
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DS9
Oct 15, 2007 9:00:47 GMT
Post by Rad on Oct 15, 2007 9:00:47 GMT
I tried to catch it on Virgin 1 but an hour every night is too much!
DS9 (as with TNG and VOY) got good about series 3 didn't it? What is it with Trek and slow starts?
*Looking forward to getting into those boxsets now*
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DS9
Oct 15, 2007 13:53:24 GMT
Post by Feral on Oct 15, 2007 13:53:24 GMT
Yeah. TNG was amusingly awful for the first series or so. Worf's forehead gets smaller as the episodes get less rubbish. And Troi's dress gets longer.
It seems to take about 25 episodes for some of the cast to learn how to act (stand up, Dr Julian Bashir...) And they didn't really have much of an arc for the first series of DS9 - it was basically just 'alien of the week', TNG style. I think they weren't quite sure what they wanted to do with it to begin with really. Garak was great from the off, of course.
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DS9
Oct 15, 2007 21:02:11 GMT
Post by Cherubic on Oct 15, 2007 21:02:11 GMT
I loved DS9. Except Kira, who was a sanctimonious cow always banging on about the prophets.
Jadzia Dax with the old Klingons was great. Garak was great. Kai Win was great. The Defiant was great. The female changeling was great. Gul Dukat going mad was great.
I forgot how much I loved this, I need to buy the boxsets.
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DS9
Oct 15, 2007 23:02:22 GMT
Post by Feral on Oct 15, 2007 23:02:22 GMT
Ha, you lowculturerers have surprised me with your impeccable taste! I figured you'd all probably hate this I always found Jadzia Dax disturbingly attractive. Even more so in the Mirror Universe episodes: Mirror Dax was stupidly hot. For a girl, anyway. This made me laugh - Colm Meaney is so great...
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DS9
Oct 16, 2007 20:41:22 GMT
Post by xenomaniac on Oct 16, 2007 20:41:22 GMT
Ohh I wanted to get the boxsets for ages but they were always so expensive, they are pretty cheap now so ordered a few. I thought it got off to a fairly slow start but really like The Circle stories that end the first series, a real taste of what was to come.
I like how they are all pretty shady characters. How many of the characters were murderers? It was like Albert Square in space.
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DS9
Oct 16, 2007 22:35:01 GMT
Post by skillex on Oct 16, 2007 22:35:01 GMT
Except for the original cast films - with Kirk, Spock, Dame Uhura etc all flying around in space with pension books - DS9 is really the only Star Trek that I've ever liked. At first it's a bit run-of-the-mill, isn't it? But I got into it in the last couple of seasons when the war with the Dominion was in full swing. Unlike most Star Treks it actually had (shock) people not getting on, conflict, the Federation not being all lily-white and character motivation. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it had its moments of technobabble and "Californian management training video in space" like the other series, but far, far fewer of them.
If the boxsets are cheap I may even pick up a couple of them, maybe of the seasons in the middle I never saw when the war started and Worf came on board, etc.
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DS9
Nov 6, 2007 20:43:56 GMT
Post by Joel on Nov 6, 2007 20:43:56 GMT
It's £25 a season in HMV at the moment. I'm on season 5 and it's really getting good.
Keiko O'Brien possessed by a P'ah Wraith = best thing ever.
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DS9
Nov 6, 2007 23:47:27 GMT
Post by jetsetwilly on Nov 6, 2007 23:47:27 GMT
It's the only episode where you don't want to push Keiko out of an airlock.
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DS9
Nov 7, 2007 1:16:32 GMT
Post by Feral on Nov 7, 2007 1:16:32 GMT
I've just hit the end of Season 2 now, and its all kicking off. The Maquis. The Dominon. Vedek Winn becoming Kai. The Jem'Hadar. And the Mirror Universe! Yay! Like the real universe, only with more torture, death and lesbianism...
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DS9
Dec 11, 2007 19:41:34 GMT
Post by mcqueen on Dec 11, 2007 19:41:34 GMT
Oh yay! I have recently "come out" as a DS9 fan at work any everyone looked at me like I had just admitted to collecting womens panties fron shopping lines!
Anway, DS9 got brilliant in season 2, I think had a slight dip in season 3 and Trundled onto brilliance from 4-6. Just brilliant characters- particularly the recurring ones like Garak, Weyoun and Dukat. And they actually started to make us give a shit about the dull as crap Bajorans.
I still wonder at how awesome it would have been if Michelle Forbes would have signed on as Ensin Ro as planned- she was beyond awesome and actually her popularity inspired the whole series!
Just startiing to watch season 7 although I did catch the finale a few years ago and I have forgot most of how it ends.
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DS9
Dec 11, 2007 19:51:04 GMT
Post by jetsetwilly on Dec 11, 2007 19:51:04 GMT
I was never keen on Ro, so I wasn't bothered she wasn't in DS9. It meant we got Major Kira, and let's face it, she's beyond fierce.
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DS9
Dec 11, 2007 20:11:26 GMT
Post by Feral on Dec 11, 2007 20:11:26 GMT
Kira is great apart from any episodes when shes boffing that boring Bareil fellow…
S1 is pretty creaky, but there is one episode, called Duet, which is brilliant. Its mostly just Kira and this Cardassian in jail who may or may not be a war criminal. He taunts her and deceives her and generally trys to upset her, and the writing and acting is just fab.
I'm on Season 3 at the moment, and its pretty good. Just watched a nice episode where they accidently set off an old Cardassian security program on DS9 – the bit where Dukat realises he's gonna get blown up by his own security measures is fabulous.
Season 4 is already beside my telly looking delightfully orange and Worf-y. Can hardly wait!
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DS9
Dec 11, 2007 20:17:42 GMT
Post by jetsetwilly on Dec 11, 2007 20:17:42 GMT
Duet is excellent, but I prefer In The Hands of The Prophets, the one that follows; it introduces the whole complex political world which made DS9 so interesting, and introduced Kai Winn, who is easily the most evil cow on television, ever. Between them though, they were a fantastic way to end the first season - better than TNG or Voyager by a thousand miles.
Thank fuck they killed Bareil though.
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DS9
Dec 11, 2007 20:47:10 GMT
Post by Cherubic on Dec 11, 2007 20:47:10 GMT
Except when a mysterious stranger from her insurgent past came aboard the station, and she swooned a lot and was rubbish
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DS9
Dec 12, 2007 0:06:03 GMT
Post by Feral on Dec 12, 2007 0:06:03 GMT
Oh, I think I remember that – it was early on (Season 1), and yeah, it was shite. Basically Kira is great whenever she isn't swooning. She's fine when she's doing ravenously sexy – especially in the Bearded / Lesbian Mirror Universe.
And she's best when she's being fierce, obviously.
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DS9
Dec 12, 2007 8:50:38 GMT
Post by Cherubic on Dec 12, 2007 8:50:38 GMT
I think it happened once every year until the Dominion invaded the alpha quadrant.
Someone would come aboard the station because of 'engine trouble' and Kira would be sent to greet them and then the camera would pan up to their face and she would look shocked and he'd say 'hello Kira' and then reveal over the course of 42 minutes that he had a secret plan to destroy the station/Bajor/the wormhole/ the Defiant because he never grea out of being a terrorist. And when Kira picked herself up off the floor she would have to 'betray him' despite all they went through in the old days blah blah blah.
Kira was best when she was being a bitch to Kai Wynn.
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DS9
Dec 12, 2007 19:43:58 GMT
Post by Feral on Dec 12, 2007 19:43:58 GMT
And Kai Winn was best when she was being a bitch to everyone. Which was ALWAYS.
(Though Bareil was so dull it was hard not to wish her well whenever she was pwning him)
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DS9
Dec 12, 2007 19:52:21 GMT
Post by Cherubic on Dec 12, 2007 19:52:21 GMT
I liked the Kai Winn/Sisko scences. There was sexual tension there, it was great.
Also, how useless is the Bajoran church, not to notice that the woman they elected as their leader is a scheming, meglomaniacal, slutty murderess, with no morals whatsoever?
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DS9
Dec 12, 2007 20:09:13 GMT
Post by Feral on Dec 12, 2007 20:09:13 GMT
If the Church of Scotland could find some big blue glowing balls to play with at their services, I'd be much more inclined towards religion, I reckon.
I was always fond of the sexual tension between Bashir and Garak. And Bashir and O'Brien. In fact Bashir was just a big bundle of sexual tension generally really.
And I like to think that if Sisko had ever shagged Kai Winn, the Bajorans would have worshiped it as some sort of religious event.
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