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Post by georgie on Jul 29, 2007 18:45:12 GMT
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laine
Jane Asher
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Post by laine on Jul 29, 2007 18:47:20 GMT
About Arianna, I didn't think it was rape, I got the impression it was more they beat her so bad she got some kind of brain damage.
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Post by mcflooze on Jul 30, 2007 11:43:24 GMT
You may as well say 1/4 of the population are fuckers by birth. And that would be wrong why?
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Post by LoveMusic on Jul 30, 2007 16:41:48 GMT
Aye, surely if they were going for the let's name them after dead people angle, Fred would've got a look in, given he was Ginny's brother! But Ron and Ginny still have four older brothers, and with the Weasleys' tendency to breed like rabbits one of them is bound to have named one of their spawn after Fred. Probably George, who married Angelina Johnson, since EVERYONE always marries their high-school sweetheart and that is the law. (I can't actually remember if Angelina went out with Fred or George, but then again she probably doesn't either. It's not like she's got much choice - "I'll have the one with a pulse, please!") This also explains why Ron & Hermione came up with the random names Rose and Hugo, as every other name in the world had already been taken by a Weasley. I know, thats one close family tree. No-one decided to look anywhere further than to their left for a life-partner.
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Post by xenomaniac on Jul 30, 2007 17:02:53 GMT
You may as well say 1/4 of the population are fuckers by birth. And that would be wrong why? I think one of the morals through the books is that it isn't your birth that counts but the decisions and choices you make in life. By making none of the Slytherins stay to fight its basically saying Slytherins are all bad people, I don't like that no matter how true it is.
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Post by Steven on Jul 31, 2007 6:47:44 GMT
Finished this about a week after everyone else. Will probably get smote to high heaven for this, but my overall reaction was pretty much "meh".
It was better than books five and six, but still nowhere near as good as one to four. The first 380 pages or so bored the living shit out of me. Ron/Hermione/Harry on the run, in the countryside. Living in secrecy. Make a bit of progress on the quest. Someone fucks up massively and reveals their location to the Death Eaters. Escape by the narrowest of margins, thanks to Hermione. Lather, rinse, repeat. It got so tedious. And I'm sorry, but I just really don't like JK Rowling's writing very much. Her prose feels so leaden a lot of the time. She's great at plots, but the execution doesn't always work for me.
Also, I fucking hate Harry so fucking much. He has got such an attitude problem, and I spent pretty much the entire book wanting to punch him in the kidneys and wondering how Ron and Hermione can stick him (and this is entirely separate from my deep loathing of Daniel Radcliffe). The entire King's Cross chapter where Dumbledore was all "oh Harry, thou art wiser and better and brave and more noble than I ever was" made me retch.
When it got back into Hogwarts, the magic (no pun intended) seemed to come back - the writing was a lot tighter, there was a real sense of tension, it genuinely felt like This Was It. Everything leading up to that felt like treading water, no matter how much manufactured danger was chucked in.
Epilogue actually made me say "well, THAT was lame" out loud. Didn't feel especially moved by any of the deaths because there were so many of them that I got totally desensitised to it. The only character I felt any kind of loss for was Hedwig. Tonks and Lupin were clearly going to die anyway, what with their whole storyline being "we has baby, we is so happies".
Sorry.
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Post by uberboober on Jul 31, 2007 7:24:34 GMT
I totally agree with you on ther Epilogue - I think it let down the whole book. It just seemed like a tacked on "and they all lived happily ever after", probably written just for the girls. I'm disappointed Draco didn't join the gayers.
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Post by Becky on Jul 31, 2007 8:16:16 GMT
From The Mirror:
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Post by jode* on Jul 31, 2007 8:40:55 GMT
That's a rubbish summary. And Ron wasn't a partner in the joke shop - he was an Auror.
There's a full transcript on Mugglenet - and George did name his first son Fred.
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Post by Steven on Jul 31, 2007 10:57:48 GMT
This is fabulous, but entirely NSFW:
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Post by Nurse Dunkley on Jul 31, 2007 19:29:30 GMT
This is fabulous, but entirely NSFW: That's so cool. I know for a fact* that it's not really cleverly edited excerts from the audio books, and that it's really filthy Stephen Fry churning it out in his back bedroom and putting them on the net. *Perhaps.
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Post by thelovelykate on Aug 1, 2007 14:11:34 GMT
. The attack on Ariana by the muggles - was that implied rape? Or was it just a regular old attack? I'm so glad I'm not alone in thinking this! Given it's really a childrens' book I felt a bit twisted for even considering it and I did wonder whether all my years of watching Hollyoaks have finally wrecked my brain. Other than the shock of implied child rape in Harry Potter I thought Dumbledore's backstory was completely pointless. I was a bit disappointed with Aberforth as well. Since he was first mentioned in one of the other books I always hoped he'd turn up and be a maverick badass version of Dumbledore. Instead he is just a pub landlord who likes goats. Gutted.
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Post by longsnakemoan on Aug 1, 2007 16:26:27 GMT
Fuck me he looks just like my cousin's ex boyfriend. He probably is my cousin's x boyfriend and I was just pissed at the time. So the Weasley's if Harry married his bitch (aka Ginny) and Ron married Hermione and Bill married Fleur who did the other two marry because I always thought Prcy was gay.
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Post by somethingbiblical on Aug 1, 2007 18:25:46 GMT
Percy had a girlfriend in book 2. Though JK made it seem like Ginny had walked in on him having a wank rather than snogging her. Though of course we know that means nothing..!
It wasn't just rape - it was gang rape.. it's actually pretty shocking when you think about it, but at the same time subtle enough to pass a lot of people by, especially children.
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Post by Nurse Dunkley on Aug 1, 2007 23:43:19 GMT
I was a bit disappointed with Aberforth as well. Since he was first mentioned in one of the other books I always hoped he'd turn up and be a maverick badass version of Dumbledore. Instead he is just a pub landlord who likes goats. Gutted. I loved the way he turned out. If he'd been some sort of anti-Dumbledore I feel it would have taken away from the fact that he's a dirty goat lover. Also, I liked how he was essentially a good man, yet he and Dumbledore still didn't get along too well. If he was a bit evil it would have been too 'black and white'.
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Post by longsnakemoan on Aug 2, 2007 8:31:46 GMT
I was a bit disappointed with Aberforth as well. Since he was first mentioned in one of the other books I always hoped he'd turn up and be a maverick badass version of Dumbledore. Instead he is just a pub landlord who likes goats. Gutted. I loved the way he turned out. If he'd been some sort of anti-Dumbledore I feel it would have taken away from the fact that he's a dirty goat lover. Also, I liked how he was essentially a good man, yet he and Dumbledore still didn't get along too well. If he was a bit evil it would have been too 'black and white'. He is actually Pan.
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Post by LoveMusic on Aug 2, 2007 18:39:41 GMT
I can't even remember who Adriana was!?
My friend and I decided that the huge chunk of boring camping will be one scene of them all looking grumpy in a tent. Thank god. In the book it was just Hermione sobbing, over and over.
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Post by longsnakemoan on Aug 3, 2007 15:24:38 GMT
I can't even remember who Adriana was!? My friend and I decided that the huge chunk of boring camping will be one scene of them all looking grumpy in a tent. Thank god. In the book it was just Hermione sobbing, over and over. When that makes it into th film I will be making gun motions with my fingers bcaue I hate Hermione in the films and her fucking waggly eyebrows. Poh tart, grrrrrrr.
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Post by LoveMusic on Aug 5, 2007 18:43:56 GMT
I grew to dislike her too. She really wasn't doing anything else but sobbing in the book.
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Post by xenomaniac on Sept 11, 2007 21:43:09 GMT
Why didn't Fudge give Harry truth serum after book four? In fact truth serum is very underused throughout the books.
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Post by Nurse Dunkley on Sept 11, 2007 23:01:17 GMT
Why didn't Fudge give Harry truth serum after book four? In fact truth serum is very underused throughout the books. That's a very good point. You've sort of ruined the whole series of books for me now. Well parts of 5 and 6. I don't remember JK giving any sort of reason for Veritaserum not to be used much, like she did with the time turners at the end of book 5 (when they all got destroyed at the ministry). Have you been rereading book 4, or did it just pop into your head in a Harry Potter plothole Eureka moment?
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Post by xenomaniac on Sept 12, 2007 21:16:35 GMT
Why didn't Fudge give Harry truth serum after book four? In fact truth serum is very underused throughout the books. That's a very good point. You've sort of ruined the whole series of books for me now. Well parts of 5 and 6. I don't remember JK giving any sort of reason for Veritaserum not to be used much, like she did with the time turners at the end of book 5 (when they all got destroyed at the ministry). Have you been rereading book 4, or did it just pop into your head in a Harry Potter plothole Eureka moment? I've started rereading them. Hermione should have picked Krum.
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Post by Nurse Dunkley on Sept 12, 2007 22:16:50 GMT
I'd forgotten that not everyone has read them. I don't like Krum, but then I tend to imagine him as a European Wayne Rooney. Bleurgh.
EDIT: Although Wayne Rooney is European. But you know what I mean.
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Post by xenomaniac on Sept 12, 2007 22:37:10 GMT
I have always been partial to quiet, athletic guys.
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Post by Muinimula on Sept 19, 2007 14:34:51 GMT
I just finished the book, due to the fact that I waited til my dad and brother had read it, and it took a while to finish the book I was already reading.
Anyway, loved the whole Snape explanation chapter. I had a feeling the 7th Horcrux would be a person, but wasn't sure it would actually be Harry. Epilogue was a bit naff - I agree, why didn't Ginny get to pick a name for one of the children?
Best moment was clearly Mrs Weasley vs Bellatrix. Most confusing was why Draco was the master of the wand. Overall, it thoroughly involved me, and I really enjoyed it.
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