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Post by David Hunter on Dec 17, 2004 22:44:16 GMT
What's the thoughts on the Harris's exit on Corrie? They seem to have been for the chop for about 18 months. I don't think they've ever fitted in. Their introduction where they were in witness protection was rubbish and totally unbelievable. Plus I hate it when Corrie brings in well known faces. Both the Tommy and Angela were far too well know in that ITV Sunday night family drama way.
However their exit, according to Digital Spy, has Katie becoming pregnant, rowing with Tommy and then stabbing him to death! Martin is accused, then Angela finds out it was Katie and takes the blame. This seems even more unbelievable than the witness protection storyline! None of them are interesting enough to stab anyone or have anyone care!
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Post by si on Dec 18, 2004 9:13:58 GMT
But then, look how well the Sunset Beach-y plot with Tracey trying to pass off Amy/Paitence as Roy Cropper's child worked? Very over the top, but didn't Roy and Haylet break your heart? It does sound very silly, but I think Corrie may pull it off.
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Post by David Hunter on Dec 18, 2004 10:31:40 GMT
It's a great storyline and it worked when they did something similar with the Jordache's in Brookside. I just don't think the Harrises are interesting enough for anyone to care. Now if Ken was to butcher Liz MacDonald I'd tune in for that!
Anyone else heard that when Ken & Deidre remarry next year, Tracy's father, Ray Langton, turns up on the morning of the connubials?!
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Post by si on Dec 18, 2004 11:26:21 GMT
Yes, I see your point. We've not seen the Harris' interior set for months now. Even the writers are bored of them.
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Post by toby3000 on Dec 18, 2004 19:05:56 GMT
But then, look how well the Sunset Beach-y plot with Tracey trying to pass off Amy/Paitence as Roy Cropper's child worked? Very over the top, but didn't Roy and Haylet break your heart? It does sound very silly, but I think Corrie may pull it off. But that worked because you believed the characteers involved would actually do it...the thoguht of Katie stabbing her father to death is just too silly for words. Though they'll be keeping up with the neighbours, since they live next door to the Hillman/Platts. |
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Post by si on Dec 19, 2004 8:16:47 GMT
Because Tracey'd spent years upstairs, playing her tapes, she was the obvious candidate to sell her unborn child?
Although I like Tracey a lot, I really don't see where she got this bitchy side from.
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Post by Nick on Dec 19, 2004 8:55:12 GMT
Because Tracey'd spent years upstairs, playing her tapes, she was the obvious candidate to sell her unborn child? Although I like Tracey a lot, I really don't see where she got this bitchy side from. The great thing about Tracy is that she spent her formative years with Ken and Deirdre, and all that general discord and acrimony and unfaithfulness, and now they just claim that it rubbed off on her. There was a mid-to-late-80s Christmas episode when Deirdre was somewhere else (fucking away?) and mini-Tracy and Ken were alone, and he was drunk and crying and shouting at her. They stuck this clip in on of those 'Coronation Street: Tracy Barlow - The Bitterness Behind The Bitch'-type schedule-fillers, and this was made out to be a significant moment in her life, and left her damaged and fragile and all about self-preservation and a with twisted idea of love, etc. And, of course, mid-90s Tracy was mean about stepdad Samir and then helped herself to his kidney when he died, so it was almost as though she had killed him herself, you see? AND her kidney was fucked because she had taken E. And there is nothing - nothing - worse than drugs in The Soaps, so she basically killed her stepdad in her selfish pursuit of drug-fuelled pleasure. Which is much worse than baby-selling / Karen-goading / tyre-hoarding. And perhaps just a little worse than not-quite-date-raping a man who was introduced into the programme as Deirdre's strange and besotted neighbour, which I'd forgotten about until just now. But, see! All their lives have been inextricably knotted together for years and years and years, and there is so much Coronation Street history that everything can be accounted for if you look back far enough. The same clip show thing made a thoroughly convincing case for Tracy-as-played-by-Dawn-Acton having a teenage crush on young Steve MacDonald back in the early 90s, directly leading to the hugely entertaining Karen-related soap fight joy we have today. As for the Harrises, they're shit, but the nu-Baldwins have two even more recognisable actors as the parents and they've turned out to be fucking fantastic. |
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Post by David Hunter on Dec 19, 2004 9:31:32 GMT
... there is so much Coronation Street history that everything can be accounted for if you look back far enough... As for the Harrises, they're shit, but the nu-Baldwins have two even more recognisable actors as the parents and they've turned out to be fucking fantastic. Yeah they are good but I still watch it thinking there's Shell from Bad Girls and Bradley Walsh. But they are a million times better than the Harrises (there's the ginger bloke from Where the Heart is and the woman from Fat Friends). On the history front it annoys me that Mike Baldwin is suddenly an 'uncle' when he was always an only child. His father, also called Frankie Baldwin and played by Sam Kydd, was in the series late 70s and was killed off in 82 when the actor died. He was a well known face but did look like an old Mike and always turned up in a car dealers camel coat. |
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Post by FeelsLikeKellyCrabtree on Dec 19, 2004 14:49:23 GMT
Slightly off topic, but why does Angela wear a scarf or a nigh neck jumper in every scene? Has she had some sort of surgery off-screen or something? It's just hilarious watching her parade around the factory with a huge scarf around her neck
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Post by toby3000 on Dec 19, 2004 16:00:48 GMT
Tracey was always nasty, from my limited memory.
I too was wondering about that scarf.
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Post by passionoia on Dec 19, 2004 16:45:20 GMT
I do like the Harris's and personally I think they have fitted in, much more so than the Baldwins but I think thats the problem, they've fitted in too well. When new characters (well the successful ones) come in they stand out and make their mark for a time and then either leave or comfortably slot in, the Harris's had that crappy intro but skipped the middle bit and just became comfortable.
I do think their exit storyline has the potential to be great though I can see one major problem. Tommy might have a bit of a temper but he isn't evil enough for people to feel sympathy for Katy when she kills him and as such she'll be the one in the wrong and I don't think the audience will accept it if Angela takes the blame and Katy gets off scott free.
The only way I can see it working is if Tommy has a Samantha style personality transplant and becomes evil.
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Post by mackenzie on Dec 19, 2004 20:45:34 GMT
Wouldn't it make a lot more sense and have a bit more continuity if they had their secret identities found out, and THEN Tommy was killed by the people they are hiding from?
Why would Katie randomly stab her father just because they were arguing? I mean, fair enough, he's as boring and twattish as fuck and if I met him I'd probably show him the sharp end of my potato peeler... But they've had massive arguments before (where he kicked her out even), and she didn't feel the need to murder him them.
I do hope Katie stays in it, though. Her hairstyles are entertaining, if nothing else.
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Post by David Hunter on Dec 19, 2004 21:27:35 GMT
I do hope Katie stays in it, though. Her hairstyles are entertaining, if nothing else. Ah that's be it! She'll be hacking at her own hair and the scissors slip... |
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Post by raspberry on Dec 20, 2004 10:34:16 GMT
Remember that the Harris son nearly killed Martin and has stayed friends with David as if nothing happened - there is an evil streak to that family. Perhaps there is some Omen-esque significance to Angela's scarf, it actually covers a 666 shaped birthmark?
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Post by toby3000 on Dec 20, 2004 17:51:32 GMT
Wouldn't it make a lot more sense and have a bit more continuity if they had their secret identities found out, and THEN Tommy was killed by the people they are hiding from? But the people they were hiding from are now in jail for some reason, they're not in hiding anymore I don't think. |
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Post by si on Dec 20, 2004 18:43:54 GMT
But the people they were hiding from are now in jail for some reason, they're not in hiding anymore I don't think. Because they're now the Harrises and not the Nelsons. See? |
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Post by Cherubic on Jan 5, 2005 0:39:10 GMT
Because they're now the Harrises and not the Nelsons. See? What ever happened to Corronation's great northern surname tradition? Barlow, Fairclough, Holdsworth, Gilroy, Ogden, Tyldesley. Honest lancastrian names. On this basis the Nelson/Harrises have never fitted in and should probably die of shame. Is Harris even Yorkshire, so much as just bland? |
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Post by Steven on Jan 31, 2005 22:33:39 GMT
Did we all see the wall shake like a fury when Tommy slammed the door tonight?
For a second there it was almost like Crossroads was still with us.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Feb 1, 2005 0:21:37 GMT
Isn't it Harrises'
This cinfuses me:
Harris = singular
Harris's = singular possessive?
Harrises = plural
Harrises' = plural possessive?
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Post by Cherubic on Feb 1, 2005 1:21:33 GMT
Are we loosing Craig then, now he's gone all gothy I don't want to.
Unless Rosie kills herself. Then it'll be worth it.
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Post by Snuff on Feb 1, 2005 11:38:19 GMT
Craig stay's. I assume he lives with someone. I can't see it being the platt's though.
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Post by toby3000 on Feb 1, 2005 14:37:23 GMT
Craig stay's. I assume he lives with someone. I can't see it being the platt's though. We seem to be in Neighbours territory here |
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