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Post by jetsetwilly on Jan 17, 2007 21:27:05 GMT
Channel 4 will be guaranteed a massive phone vote and massive viewing figures. As tempted as I am to vote for Jade to go, I don't want them to get any of my money. This is exactly how I feel. After the Nikki re-entry I promised myself I would never vote on BB again. However, I think this might be too important for principles to get in the way. At least with CBB there is a portion going to charity. |
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Post by I Hate Lana Lang on Jan 17, 2007 21:46:29 GMT
This goes beyond Grace and what she and Sezer done. Shilpa should walk - she shouldn't put herself through that. I will go so far as to say that Jade and her gang of bubblebutts are evil.
How can anyone say that's not about race? "I wish she would go back home."
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Post by MoondialSlater on Jan 17, 2007 21:50:41 GMT
No she bloody shouldn't, she needs to stay two more days, beat Jade in a public vote and watch her face and hopefully her reception. I'm glad that's got shown because Danielle has suddenly, as if she's been tipped off by BB for instance, has gone very quiet. Unfortunately she's done it too late and has just become the holder of "most racist comment" award though this may be taken away from her if we see Jo trying to start her aborted limerick "There was a young girl from Bombay." |
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Post by pauliepoos on Jan 17, 2007 21:52:58 GMT
I'm really getting pissed off with Cleo. Such a shame her spine isn't as prominent as her tits. She's not actually making anything better.
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Post by Robbing the Dead on Jan 17, 2007 21:53:26 GMT
Shilpa shouldn't walk because that's what Jade wants. What we need is a Jade vs. Shilpa eviction with Jade being evicted. That will show that people sided with Shilpa, plus the boos Jade will get will knock her off her high-horse. The crowd are stupid and will take the general public opinion. The Sun's headline today was 'Jade Baddy'.
Tonights arguement was horrible. I really respect Shilpa for mostly managing to keep her cool.
Yes Shilpa probably did order other stuff on the list, but Jade is calling her a liar with all that poison in her voice over a few stock cubes. And Danielle and Jo just sitting their laughing was vile as well.
I liked Shilpa's comment in the diary room about how she has a better vocabulary than most of the people in there.
What I really want it Jade to really lose it and call her a fucking paki.
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Post by MoondialSlater on Jan 17, 2007 22:07:17 GMT
Unfortunately she's done it too late and has just become the holder of "most racist comment" award though this may be taken away from her if we see Jo trying to start her aborted limerick "There was a young girl from Bombay." Oh, they didn't show her limerick. In fact they managed to miss a whole hour of Jade & Jo slagging Jade off, Jade saying she wanted to headbutt her, that she wanted to wipe that smug look off her face, that Shilpa has turned Jermaine & Dirk against her, that she's nasty and manipulative, that she's probably not a real celebrity, that Jade is "real" and Jo is "the fairest person in the world" and Jack suggesting they take Shilpa, put her in the garden and lock the door which Cleo found hilarious. Must've slipped their minds. |
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Post by David Hunter on Jan 17, 2007 22:11:42 GMT
I'm still not convinced it's a race thing. I think that's incidental. It's more of a class thing.
I always think CBB is a condenced version of the previous BB series. All we need is for Jade to throw a glass of water over Shilpa when she's evicted and it's a concentrated version of Grace/Susie. Only much worse.
Jermaine is so right. Jade and the harpies can't cope with Shilpa's class. Plus, this is hugely important for Jade's 'career', whereas to Shilpa it's merely an experience.
We are so used to seeing scumbags on the telly nowadays that people think it's the norm. Bring back Hyacinth Bucket I say! And although that's a flippant comment I do think decent moral types aren't represented anymore.
I think it's time to say goodbye to the Jades and Lizzie Bardsleys.
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Post by pauliepoos on Jan 17, 2007 22:13:29 GMT
And as the Sun columnist just said on BBBM, if Jade hates liars, then she's got a lot of explaining to do over the exercise video/liposuction story.
Can they please send Jo Frost in there?
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Post by Nicholas on Jan 17, 2007 22:13:48 GMT
Tonights arguement was horrible. I really respect Shilpa for mostly managing to keep her cool. Yes Shilpa probably did order other stuff on the list, but Jade is calling her a liar with all that poison in her voice over a few stock cubes. And Danielle and Jo just sitting their laughing was vile as well. Exactly! And Shilpa did, during all of Jade's hideous shouting, say some thing along the lines of "if I said that I take it back", and Jade just carried on. Extraordinary, uncomfortable television. |
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Post by MoondialSlater on Jan 17, 2007 22:17:19 GMT
I'm still not convinced it's a race thing. I think that's incidental. It's more of a class thing. Where Jade is concerned no, despite being one of the most loathsome human beings on the planet she hasn't been racist in her slagging off Shilpa. She is under the impression that she's defending the working classes in some way and that Shilpa needs to be brought down a peg or two. Comments from Jo and Danielle on the other hand I can't say the same about. |
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Post by bittersweet on Jan 17, 2007 22:18:35 GMT
Its was horrid viewing yet again tonight, just awful to have to watch Shilpa being subjected to such utter nastiness.
The only fair resolution to all this really has to be Jade being evicted (or better still, being removed by the producers) and Shilpa going on to a triumphant and well deserved victory.
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Post by Elly on Jan 17, 2007 22:29:10 GMT
The fact that Big Brother pulled Danielle up on her "She should just go home" comment seems monumentally stupid to me. They've now recognised that she has made a racist comment, but didn't give her any sort of punishment, much less take the zero tolerance approach they should now surely be implementing.
Danielle's whole apology seemed very long and very staged. Put simply, it didn't ring true. The only part that didn't seem fake was her initial reaction. I think there might very well have been some coaching going on there.
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Post by pops on Jan 17, 2007 22:31:36 GMT
Russell Brand is on Big Brother's Big Mouth urging the studio audence to express their opinions and asking people to phone in because it's 'their' show, and then hushing up anyone who starts criticising Jade - apparently it's 'society's' fault that racism exists and slagging off one person only increases the hatred, or some other wank he's just dreamt up to make himself sound like he's a peace-loving bohemian free-thinker instead of someone who's blindly towing the Endemol party line.
And Russell is the supposedly 'irreverent' one. God help us when Davina has to interview Jade when she's evicted.
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Post by I Hate Lana Lang on Jan 17, 2007 22:34:25 GMT
It's disgraceful isn't it? Jade is too powerful to be punished.
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Post by MoondialSlater on Jan 17, 2007 22:40:20 GMT
The fact that Big Brother pulled Danielle up on her "She should just go home" comment seems monumentally stupid to me. They've now recognised that she has made a racist comment, but didn't give her any sort of punishment, much less take the zero tolerance approach they should now surely be implementing. Danielle's whole apology seemed very long and very staged. Put simply, it didn't ring true. The only part that didn't seem fake was her initial reaction. I think there might very well have been some coaching going on there. I'm not sure what the point of this was. On the one hand it shows there is racism going on in the BB house despite their denials. On the other hand it shows the producers "dealing" with it. On the one hand it shows Danielle being remorseful for her actions. On the other hand it shows that she is the only one to make overtly racist attacks (whether she really is or not is another matter) on Shilpa. I can't figure out if they plan on saving Danielle by making her remorseful or saving Jade by setting someone else up. |
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Post by MoondialSlater on Jan 17, 2007 22:43:07 GMT
God help us when Davina has to interview Jade when she's evicted. As horrible as this whole series has been to watch I still think the most repulsive viewing of this whole mess will be Davina trying to save Jade's career as she interviews her. |
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Post by I Hate Lana Lang on Jan 17, 2007 23:12:38 GMT
I doubt even Davina can save this:  Someone placed a link on DigitalSpy, her entry has been shut down to prevent further vandalism. |
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Post by MoondialSlater on Jan 17, 2007 23:23:31 GMT
I doubt even Davina can save this No, but the fact she's going to try when she gave Makosi & Aisleyne such a hard time is what's going to be sickening. I recently bought a new TV and am tempted to plug the old one back in just for Friday so when Davina finishes her sycophantic damage-limiting interview with Jade I can kick the screen in. |
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Post by WhiteNoiseMaker on Jan 17, 2007 23:27:17 GMT
I doubt even Davina can save this No, but the fact she's going to try when she gave Makosi & Aisleyne such a hard time is what's going to be sickening. I recently bought a new TV and am tempted to plug the old one back in just for Friday so when Davina finishes her sycophantic damage-limiting interview with Jade I can kick the screen in. Genius! You simply must do it, video it and get it up on youtube! |
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Post by Bungle on Jan 17, 2007 23:28:24 GMT
I doubt even Davina can save this No, but the fact she's going to try when she gave Makosi & Aisleyne such a hard time is what's going to be sickening. I recently bought a new TV and am tempted to plug the old one back in just for Friday so when Davina finishes her sycophantic damage-limiting interview with Jade I can kick the screen in. You are Ian Levine and I claim my five pounds. |
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Post by Steven on Jan 17, 2007 23:41:10 GMT
I wonder if Adele from BB3, having been sold down the river to protect Jade from getting battering the press had lined up for her, is rubbing her hands with glee at the thought of karmic retribution finally coming around four and a half years later.
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Post by I Hate Lana Lang on Jan 17, 2007 23:46:13 GMT
I doubt even Davina can save this No, but the fact she's going to try when she gave Makosi & Aisleyne such a hard time is what's going to be sickening. I recently bought a new TV and am tempted to plug the old one back in just for Friday so when Davina finishes her sycophantic damage-limiting interview with Jade I can kick the screen in. I laughed at that but do you know something Moondial, watching Channel 4 condone this and do NOTHING really makes me want to smash things up. It's funny how easily wound up a television programme can make you isn't it? There are headlines about this in AMERICA! It's more than just a reality tv show now, it's lighting a touchpaper that we can't put out. No joke here, but we need Shilpa to win if only to show that the nation isn't all like Jade. I know there will be people booing Shilpa though for being 'fake'. |
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Post by I Hate Lana Lang on Jan 17, 2007 23:51:20 GMT
No, but the fact she's going to try when she gave Makosi & Aisleyne such a hard time is what's going to be sickening. I recently bought a new TV and am tempted to plug the old one back in just for Friday so when Davina finishes her sycophantic damage-limiting interview with Jade I can kick the screen in. You are Ian Levine and I claim my five pounds. I know exactly what you are referring to! Does that make me sad or a real Doctor Who fan? |
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Post by raspberry on Jan 18, 2007 0:11:54 GMT
This is my two pence worth, considered while watching Ugly Betty this evening.
I believe that what has been shown on Big Brother is ignorance fuelled aggression and abuse. Racist comments have been made by several housemates and I would define the perpertrators as racist. I wouldn't say BB or Endemol are to blame, or that the show is racist as it is only a platform. The edited shows may not be as honest as the live feeds but they get a darn sight closer to people's characters than magazine spreads.
Tonight Jade was seen to level a near enough untolerable amount of verbal abuse at Shilpa that will hopefully end her 'career'. I would love it if Jade was evicted without an interview. It would great if as soon as the doors opened for her the live feed ended and the country stopped watching her.
I wish someone would try to explain to Jade why being polite and tactful are not bad things and that being rude and abusive is disgusting.
I feel that Danielle is a reminder of one of the reasons why, as a nation, we let Jade off the hook for her terrible behaviour in BB3 - she sometimes displays an 'idiot savant' wit. Tonight when Cleo was called in to the diary room after Jack to go over the shopping list, Danielle asked Jade without pausing to think, "Can he read?". While I dislike her hugely, I thought that was brilliant.
I think Shilpa is coping as knows she doesn't need validation from people like Jade, Jack, Jo or Danielle or people outside the house that may think like them. I'd guess she is confident that the public is seeing the bad behaviour of her housemates, which we are.
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Post by David Hunter on Jan 18, 2007 0:18:35 GMT
Tonight when Cleo was called in to the diary room after Jack to go over the shopping list, Danielle asked Jade without pausing to think, "Can he read?". While I dislike her hugely, I thought that was brilliant. What was even better about this, was that Jade thought it a perfectly reasonable question! |
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