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Post by theactresswhosings on Jul 19, 2005 12:01:31 GMT
"Priori Incantatem"
What does that mean, and how much do you love Harry Potter you mad muggle?
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Post by jode* on Jul 19, 2005 12:08:25 GMT
"Priori Incantatem" What does that mean, and how much do you love Harry Potter you mad muggle? It's from the end of the fourth book where something weird happens when Harry and Voldemort fight cos they have the same wand cores. I looked up the proper term. And quite a lot! |
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Post by Becky on Jul 19, 2005 12:16:08 GMT
Yeah, I know wizards and witches live longer than Muggles, but he's like 150, which I;m pretty sure is old even by magic standards. Wasnt he using the elixer of life with his friend who made it? |
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Post by Ezzie on Jul 19, 2005 13:51:02 GMT
No I don't think so. I think he's just one of those fussy buggers who refused to die (until now), I'm pretty sure he's never used the Elixer of Life.
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Post by Becky on Jul 19, 2005 14:43:13 GMT
Haha it makes him sound a bit of a junkie. I thought Luna was dealing drugs at one point in the HBP, but it turned out to be something useless, although I bet JK was hinting at drugs since she couldnt actually come out and say it. She did say that she wasnt allowed to put swear words in and so got round it by other means. I think she should have had all the swear words and rude bits (I bet they were up to more than just snogging) in the adult version.
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Post by jode* on Jul 19, 2005 16:39:05 GMT
Percy was sooooooo having a wank when Ginny walks in on him in Chamber of Secrets.
Rowling makes out he was kissing Penelope. Ginny was embarrassed round him ALL year. That would never happen if she just saw them kissing.
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Post by Jen on Jul 19, 2005 17:48:07 GMT
Ron turned 17, which earlier in the book was explained as coming of age (a year earlier than muggles). However, when Ron opens his presents he says something like imagine what I'll get next year when I come of age. Ok. Ron says : "Seriously good haul this year!" he announced, holding up a heavy gold watch with odd symbols around the edge and tiny moving stars instead of hands. "See what Mum and Dad got me? Blimey, I think I'll come of age next year too...."-There is mention from Snape in Chapter 2 that Dumbledore has "sustained a serious injury". If a broken unbreakable vow would kill a normal wizard, I think its fair to assume that someone of Dumbledores power could have gotten away with a dead hand. -Yizzo, that dude would be Mundungus Fletcher, and the man with him was the Barman of the Hog's Head. -Harry and Voldemorts wands share cores, both a feather from the tail of Fawkes, the phoenix. According to Dumbledore, Priori Incantatem means: " So what happens when a wand meets its brother?" said Sirius.
'They will not work properly against each other,' said Dumbledore. "If however, the owners of the wands force the wands to do battle.... a very rare effect will take place.
One of the wands will force the other to regurgitate spells it has performed- in reverse. The most recent first.... and then those which preceded it...."-There does seem to be the insinuation in Philosophers stone that Dumbledore has taken a small amount of Elixer of life, just enough to prolong his life more then others, but my Mum has nicked the book so I can't quote that. -Jode, I'm sure JK is very happy with the wanking assumption, as I'm sure it was on her mind (It was certainly the first thing I thought, till the whole "It's a childrens book" issue came up) but Ginny is never really embarrased around Percy- It's only in chapter 16 of COS that she scapers when he comes near, because she was about to tell Ron about Riddles diary. Yes I love Harry Potter and have no shame. I'm sure there is a support group for me somewhere. |
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Post by jode* on Jul 19, 2005 18:04:31 GMT
Wow to the above
Hasn't Rowling already said that the barman in the Hog's Head is Dumbledore's brother Aberforth?
I would have thought she would have mentioned it in Half-Blood Prince. As she hasn't I am assuming he will be important in book 7.
Seeing as how Aberforth is still alive (can't be that much younger than Dumbledore if he is younger), I think 150 years is a natural age for an old wizard without the help of the Elixir of Life.
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Post by Elly on Jul 19, 2005 18:44:31 GMT
I thought Dumbledore sustained the hand injury when trying to destroy the ring. I can't be bothered to root through the book now, but I'm sure this was implied.
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Post by Steven on Jul 20, 2005 10:23:10 GMT
She did say that she wasnt allowed to put swear words in and so got round it by other means. Ah yes, the ingenious means of writing "Harry swore". That really pissed me off after a while. She can make up an entire universe of witches and wizards, and yet she can't make up a couple of nonsense curse words that aren't going to offend anyone? I wasn't that impressed with the book, to be honest. I found myself getting distracted a lot by grammatical errors and the awkward descriptions that Rowling was using which just didn't work for me. I didn't like the ending, because it just felt like quite a lame payoff. Perhaps we'll get more payoff and more detail in book seven, but I'm just judging it on what I've got so far, and it didn't work for me. And the ending where Harry is all "Oh Ginny, I love you but I have to go and do something far greater than this and thus we can never be together"? Vomit. Absolute vomit. Plus, although I was glad that Harry didn't spend the entirety of this book shouting like he did so gratingly in OotP, I did find that he reminded me a lot of season seven Buffy, in that he seemed hugely affronted whenever anyone doubted him, or his ideas, or his reasons for doing something, and by the time it turned out he was right and everyone else was wrong I no longer cared, I just wanted him to shut the hell up. |
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Post by jode* on Jul 20, 2005 12:13:50 GMT
Ah yes, the ingenious means of writing "Harry swore". That really pissed me off after a while. She can make up an entire universe of witches and wizards, and yet she can't make up a couple of nonsense curse words that aren't going to offend anyone? Yes, the term "mudblood". And the ending where Harry is all "Oh Ginny, I love you but I have to go and do something far greater than this and thus we can never be together"? Vomit. Absolute vomit. It's true though. With great power comes great responsibilty. It's a typical superhero reaction, and needed in this situation I think. Cheesy, done before, but great. |
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Post by Steven on Jul 20, 2005 13:16:32 GMT
Yes, the term "mudblood". Good point. So the fact that she's managed it before but seemingly couldn't be bothered to do it for this book makes me even more frustrated. |
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Post by Jen on Jul 20, 2005 17:21:20 GMT
Yes, the term "mudblood". Good point. So the fact that she's managed it before but seemingly couldn't be bothered to do it for this book makes me even more frustrated. I don't think its a case of not being bothered- Harry was raised by muggles so wouldn't use wizard swear words. And the rest of the wizards use the normal english language- the only cross over is terms for wizarding things, Ie "mudblood". I don't think that wizards would have any reason to make up words to the equivilant of "wanker" when they don't have the equivilant of "tea cup". In regards to the ring: " No, I acquired it very recently," said Dumbledore. "A few days before I came to fetch you from your aunt and uncle's, in fact."
"That would be around the time you injured your hand, then, sir?"
"Around that time, yes, Harry"
Harry hesitated. Dumbledore was smiling.
"Sir, how exactly-?"
" Too late, Harry! You shall hear the story another time. Goodnight". |
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Post by Nick on Jul 20, 2005 17:56:20 GMT
" No, I acquired it very recently," said Dumbledore. "A few days before I came to fetch you from your aunt and uncle's, in fact."
"That would be around the time you injured your hand, then, sir?"
"Around that time, yes, Harry"
Harry hesitated. Dumbledore was smiling.
"Sir, how exactly-?"
" Too late, Harry! You shall hear the story another time. Goodnight". God, Dumbledore was annoying. I'm glad he's dead. |
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Post by Jen on Jul 20, 2005 18:16:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2005 23:12:10 GMT
I bet you Lizo writes about as much of that as Krishnan Guru-Murphy writes of his diary in the Metro.
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Post by Jen on Jul 21, 2005 18:52:58 GMT
I bet you Lizo writes about as much of that as Krishnan Guru-Murphy writes of his diary in the Metro. I think he does- I've seen him talking about the books on tv and interviewing JK, he really knows his stuff. |
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Post by jode* on Jul 21, 2005 21:37:35 GMT
This is really really nerdy, and I apologise beforehand.
A quick fact for you today: I was flicking through Quidditch Through the Ages and noticed that a man called Brutus Scrimgeour wrote "A Beater's Bible". Obviously a relation of Rufus. I thought I had heard of the name before.
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Post by Becky on Jul 22, 2005 12:19:17 GMT
Lizo's doing a webchat tonight, Jen. |
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Post by Vinegar Tits on Aug 6, 2005 1:14:25 GMT
But is is Dumbledore actually, properly dead? He's now in a painting, so presumably he can still carry on tutoring Harry. I think he could come back as an Obi-Wan Kenobi-type ghost - "strike me down and I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine".
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Post by somethingbiblical on Aug 13, 2005 21:26:38 GMT
In Order of the Phoenix, one of the examiners says she examined Dumbledore himself so that means she is WAY older than 150.
And yes, the entire book was very "Ron dropped a book, swore loudly and made a rude hand gesture at Harry". I got the impression JK WANTED to make it a bit more adult but is severely limited by her very young audience.
I enjoyed the book but I think that that was only because of the fact that it's a new Harry Potter book... like JK can't write, AT ALL, but because it's so.. compelling, I guess you could say, I just love the feeling you get from reading a HP for the first time. But yeah, it totally can't stand alone of the series, like the other ones can. It's all very "manouvre it all into place for the seventh book". Just a way of getting from A to B I suppose now that Voldemort's out in the open and she still had two books to make lotsa money out of.
Character criticisms are: TONKS YOU DAFT COW, GET A GRIP, and Ron is a stupid twat who should be shot - why couldn't he just bloody admit he wanted to shag Hermione senseless?
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